Bug: Before and After Margins Layout with section starting in right page

Hi,
I am using the Spanish version of Pages 09. I have observed that when I start a new section, I have no problems setting the layout margins (right, left, before, after) of this section.
But if a set that the new section must start in a right page, then the "before" and "after" margins of the layout doesn't work.
Is this the same in English versions of Pages?
Regards,

I see what you are saying.
The problem is Pages seems to have a memory of how you arrived at that layout.
When I construct the pages, it is correct.
I am trying to find out what is interacting in your layout to cause this to happen. It is like there is a hidden inaccessible layout break on the blank inserted page.
I have been tearing my hair out trying to work out what triggers it off. As I experimented with the combinations of settings in Facing pages, Section layouts and which page it starts on, it erratically switches back and forth.
This is why I gave up on Pages years ago as a serious layout tool. It has too many of these raw, poorly thought out interactions. I use a lot of different applications and none of them, that I can think of, have so many of these mind twisting raw oddities. Odd for a supposed user friendly application.
All the rest are pretty literal, you apply the settings and end up with a logical result of those settings. If the result is not what you wanted it is a matter of tracking what is interacting with what and straightening it out. Pages has the annoying "design" of inexplicably greying out functions for no stated reason, that prevents correction. Or hiding the access to the tools to those settings. You can only get to some of them if you have explicitly done something to make them possible. The rules as to what that "something" is, are not apparent nor in most cases explained in the User Guide or the User Interface.
There may be a "reason" why the function is greyed out but it is not revealed to the user without an enormous amount of detective work and as in this case my sleuthing abilities are failing me completely. I might try it again tomorrow after a rest (it is very late here). Either way it is a huge time waster.
This is fundamentally bad User Interface design and what I have railed against since Apple changed shifts, bringing in the OSX programmers who never really got the polished UI of the original Mac OS and have been cooking with Fanta* ever since.
Peter
* This is an anecdote originally told by Peter Russell-Clarke, a well known and creative Australian chef back in the 70's. He was berated in the street by a woman who told him that his recipe for +Duck à l'orange+ was "disgusting". When he cross examined her, he found she didn't eat fresh fruit so had made the orange sauce with Fanta.
I use this to try and get the message over to clients when they insist on "substituting" material because "what's the difference". The trouble with people who can't tell the difference is that they rarely ever do, no matter how carefully it is demonstrated to them.

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