Bug Boot Zen Nano P

Hi,
I have a Zen Nano Plus that won't start any more. When I plug it on USB I see the logo on the screen and I can acces to the memory.
I try the recovery mode, update the firmware (version .0.03): everything goes fine and it says that the update is done. But after updating the mp3 player doesn't still want to start and when I see the details I have :
Current Version
- BOOT manager 0.00.00
- Host link .0.03
- Player .0.03
- Ressource Manager .0.03
Upgrade Version :
- BOOT manager 0.00.00
- Host link .0.03
- Player .0.03
- Ressource Manager .0.03
Why the Boot manager did not update? Is it why my player doesn't want to start anymore?
Thank you.

Is DapJukeBox still acti've? I get a foriegn language web page, or is that it's
Why doesn't Creative Labs deal with this?
This is crazy - I have a brand new ZEN NANo Plus, never even loaded a single song on it yet. Checked for updates and the update hoses my boot manager.

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I think this player has an issue with the size of MP3s. I regularly load and listen to fairly large MP3 podcasts, 50-70 MB per file. Just the other day the player was acting like it had a dead battery, it would shut itself off and then when attemping to boot up again it would say "Creative", then "Zen Nano..", the it would shut off again.
I tried a few new batteries and got the same response. Occasionally it would boot and start playing, but as soon as I changed tracks it would shut off again.
It seems I finally fixed it by deleting one of the large MP3s. Player appears to be back to normal now.
I also noticed that some large MP3s have intermittent problems when trying to skip over them. The player will stop responding for a few seconds. This doesn't happen all the time.
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Well I guess no one cares or never had this problem, but I can say that now after I loaded the latest firmware the player is back to normal. I don't understand why the firmware would get corrupted but in any case it works now.

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HiSorry if this was answered somewhere, but maybe i'm just dense. Can't seem to get things going. I used to have a Zen Nano Plus which worked fine on my PC - Win XP SP2.Picked up a used Zen Micro - I thought that it would be better because of bookmarking - but I have yet to get it to work.Zen Micro says Version 2.20.05?Here is a list of what it says is loaded on my PC[Creative Product-PID][Installation Log]
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Have tried to download drivers and software for Zen Micro. When I try to run it though, it does not install because it says that I do not have device connected. Have erased everything off of Zen Micro, but have not reformatted. When I attach Zen Micro to PC, Zen Micro displays "booted" & PC displays "Zen Micro" for a second or two, then switches to "MTP Device"?. Do I need to erase everything from the Zen Nano Plus first?2. What do you think my next step should be?Thx???

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Updated firmware of Creative Zen Nano P

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All software regardless how good the quality control will have bugs.
Firmware is just software that is stored in the hardware on your device. New firmware is often released by a company to fix bugs or possibly add functionality that could enhance the use of a device.
But it is also possible that a new firmware update might add a new bug or two. (a rare occurance)?Sometimes (unfortunatly) new firmware upgrades can end up removing a feature.
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If you require and use the radio recording functionality, then upgrading to the latest version (to fix some minor bugs) could end up crippling some of the functionality of the device. Normally when new firmware is released, there are notes detailing changes in functionality, bugs fixed, and even bugs that still exist. By looking at the information you can determine if you want/need to upgrade to the latest firmware.
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Hello
I'm from Italy. I have a Zen Nano plus Giga since month and it worked well, till now.
Today I disconnected it while transferring a file and the flash memory was corrupted. My firmware is .3.05e and I never tried to update it.
I have Windows98-SE with media storage drivers _07_00_250 downloaded from this site because, even if the box says "win98 compatible" the installation CD refused to run because "this software cant run on windows98" (?!?)
The problem is I cant reformat the player, nor use the scandisk to fix it. In both cases, windows hangs during the operations. I have tried this on 3 different computers, all of them have win98 (with creative drivers) giving the same results. In the past, all of these computers were used to write and read files into the player without problems...
The manual says a driver is needed to format ZEN using win 98, but I think it's talking about the same drivers to read/write the player I'm already have, I'm right?
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I returned it...
I changed it with a Packard Bell Giga FM... just to discover it's near the same machine!
Yes, outside they may look different and the display is very different.
But functions (and defects) are the same:
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Creative, Packard Bell (and most of brands, I think) are using the EXACTLY THE SAME mp3 chip made in China. This chip incorporate all the functions you need, you have only to add a nice box around adding the display and the mass memory you prefer... the chinese software is complete: you only need to add a menu to show (or hide, i'm afraid) the functions of this chip...
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Also, people always asking "who sounds better" will be happy to know they all sound well in the same manner
Compared with other players, the NANO looks "cool" and have the "line-in" function carried out... And this is all, folks!
...if only they let me to restore the original firmware I was happy to keep my NANO, but I need the radio recording and the new firmware removes it...
what a pity...
Bye and greetings from Italy,
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Re: Books on Cd I went ahead and attempt to install the latest firmware upgrade. At this time the upgrade seems to be progressing.
Okay. The player has successfully booted up
Success. After removing Windows Media Player , I was able to install the latest firmware upgrade. I have several follow-up questions. Most important question is #
. I wonder why the Zen Micro Media Explorer is not available to me. It is all grayed out. Any suggestions on how to get it to work
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3. How am I able to create a new playlist in the device if I cannot access this application
4. When I select Playlist on the device, I see a message that says: To create a playlist select from the Now Playing context menuWhat is that all about and where do I roam to do this
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(2) Computers, both XP SP2 with all updates; one called Dad's, one called W's.
One Zen (for ID, the red one) has been used on Dad's computer without issues for about 3 weeks.
One Zen, new and color Black, works on Dad's computer, but not on W's computer. W's computer will not properly recognize either the new Nano (the black one) or mine (the Red one), in either Creative MEdia SOurce, or Zen Explorer, or Windows explorer.
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NEWS!!!
Actually, we have 3 Zen Nano Pluses. Two (the black and the red) have .0.03 firmware. I have never connected the black or the red to W's computer and have it connect properly. In fact, I had just tried (again) to connect the black, it failed, I re-booted. Then, I connected the blue, with the old firmware, and it CONNECTED. I could see it in WIndows explorer as dri've F:, which never happened with either the red or the black with .0.03 firmware.
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