Bug in Genius

The new iTunes 11.0.0.163 hung when I was using the Genius feature.  When I clicked the "bullets?" icon at right of current song display, a new panel displayed a scrolling list, about 10 songs high, of songs scrolling for 2-3 minutes.  Eventually the scroll stopped, but weird segments of the iTunes window started showing in other applications including Task Manager and Firefox browser.
After forced-closing runaway iTunes, a small window appeared with a warning-twang sound, titled ""Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Libr...", with a Red-Disc X in middle and a blank button on bottom. Clicking the button closed the window. Then a Windows System box reported that CyberMedia was restarting, though I wasn't running it before.  Weird, huh?
Using Win 7/64 system.
And the new interface is quite confusing, for settings, sync, play selections, etc.  Will I become accustomed to it before Apple fixes it?

P.S.  The song stopped playing when the song-scroll started.  And iTunes memory had soared to 500 MB, then 600 ... before I stopped the application.

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    To me, this task is like big sort jobs were on mainframes a (human, not computer!) generation ago: potentially very large, critical tasks, the results of which aren't always easy to manually double-check. Surely many, if not most, users have a manner of doing this. Diff has apparently been broken for maybe 5 years and THAT wouldn't have gone unnoticed - am I one of the VERY few to even try to use kompare? What do the rest of you use?
    Note that after locating and reading as much kompare documentation as possible (I read more BUG reports than anything), I made several important discoveries:
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    (b) It err'ed out comparing two M$ 'Word' files, stating they "were binary"...
    (c) Worst of all, for me: These files have been archived to CD or DVD, usually repeatedly, and then copied back to disk (I've lost 3 good-sized archives this way - which does serve to somewhat justify my apparently obsessive need to backup files). Kompare does do individual file comparisons (ie, if you specify both files on the command line) byte-by-byte (block-by-block, whatever), but if you request that it compare *directories*, filename and size are all it considers (it appears from the sparse documentation I've seen that this is corrected in the *current* version, . The duplicate-file tool suite I used in Windows did an MD5 hash on *every* file, no matter the size; I *knew* when a bit error had creeped in, and usually knew fairly quickly. Not finding out you have a bad backup until it's the only copy of your data you have left is no good!
    Anyone have any suggestions on doing this task efficiently and reliably in Arch?
    Again, I believe this to be an upstream problem in a way, but my guess is that if we were using the *current* diffutils to match the KDE version (and a maintainer had done his job in a timely fashion) this bug would NOT exist. My advice, at least until Arch can get diff3 (or, preferably, kdiff3) packaged, STAY AWAY FROM kompare !!!  At least with anything critical, at least until this issue is better understood.
    Kompare (and diffutils, as well, IMO) needs to be removed from the 'public' repo's until it's close to fixed, at least. Just pkgbuild'ing the current diffutils version (or kdiff3!) is likely the easiest way out. Who knows, MAYBE I'll take a stab at that myself. No promises.
    For ANYONE still reading, WOW! TIA. Really. Sorry for the tome.
    Blue Skies...g
    "It's a lot easier to throw grenades than it is to catch them!"  -- Tim Russert

    [intro, backups, bla...]I BADLY need to unpack all this stuff, find and toss the duplicates, and truly organise (and efficiently backup) the remainder.
    Ok, that's what it's all about.
    I'd found a couple of useful tools in the Windows world years ago, but I don't buy software and the key piece of my suite was shareware that disabled itself after 30 days - not nearly enough time to plow through this boatload of bits.
    Total Commander rocks.
    [killed half a dozen paragrahps or so] It's possible that diff is the problem.
    Contratulations. You managed to post 3K of text but still failed to mention what the problem is.
    Subsequent googling has revealed that the diff version shipped with Arch likely hasn't been completely functional at all levels in almost *5 YEARS* now. Diff's codefile timestamp is Sept. 3, *2002*! Version 2.8.1 (3.4 is current - just like *kompare*'s current version is 3.4).
    http://www.archlinux.org/packages/search/?q=diffutils
    You will notice that package isn't flagged out-of-date. That's because the (still current) upstream version is (tadaa!) 2.8.1. Please tell us where you found that 3.4 version.
    Additionally, directly below diff in that listing is diff3. Diff's codefile size is about 60K; diff3's is about 20K. *However*, they both have the same timestamp AND version # !!!
    WTF??? What listing? You know that diff and diff3 are different programs but still part of the same upstream sources, don't you?
    [non-relevant nonsense...] See how well kompare/diff work on YOUR system...
    They work fine.
    [kompare bashing]
    Take a look at the URL, bugs.kde.org, not bugs.archlinux.org. Got it?
    I copied the backups from CD's/DVD's to a clean, freshly-showered 64 GB (62.8, actually) ext3 partition (4K blocksize, defaults otherwise, journal included). I set up a top-level directory in this partition with 15 directories beneath it, one for each of my backup discs (whose contents range in size from 50 MB to 4.36 GB). I copied one archive to each directory, then unpacked them one at a time from the command line, removing the archive copy as I went. I ended up with about 15 GB of active data (25%).
    I think I could rest my case already at this point.
    I first configured kompare to use diff (w/no C/L options) running under KDE. As kdiff3 is kompare's preference, however, why is kdiff3 not already in the repos?
    It is: community/kdiff3 0.9.91-1
    (I will skip some paragraphs about the actual kompare usage and come back to that at the very end.)
    I use the "usual" repositories. When I finally checked diff's compile date, my jaw dropped: Sept. 3, *2002* !!!  It's version 2.8.1; the current stable release is 3.4, and 3.5 is currently available for D/L (albeit not released). V. 2.8.1 works with the 2.6 kernel about as well as the original GWBasic compiler ('interpreter') does in WinXP...and may have been this way for a long time.
    Please quit that bullshit and show us version 3.4 of the GNU diffutils.
    Kompare hasn't been updated since. Diff3 IS currently being maintained. Actually, even though diff3 has apparently replaced diff, *kompare* prefers kdiff3. For that matter, from my reading thus far, diff, diff3, vimdiff and cmp ALL may possibly be useable (the latter would require some scripting). Further, ALL the following may possibly be made able to work as wrappers (in decreasing order of likelihood, IMNSHO): kompare, krusader, meld, and emelFM2.
    Check http://websvn.kde.org/ to follow the development progress of kompare, it's part of kdesdk. diff3 is from diffutils 2.8.1 and I wouldn't call that "maintained", but you already know that. It is obviously not a replacement for diff, did you ever read the manpages? And wow, a KDE program prefers to use another KDE program!
    [killed quite a bit]Diff has apparently been broken for maybe 5 years and THAT wouldn't have gone unnoticed - am I one of the VERY few to even try to use kompare? What do the rest of you use?
    Again, diff is fine and I'm using kompare (or kdiff3?) almost daily, in krusader.
    (a) kompare isn't really set up for binary files; it's intended for use with text files. You can specify an option to force a text-mode search, but you apparently canNOT do the reverse.
    (b) It err'ed out comparing two M$ 'Word' files, stating they "were binary"...
    Genius. Comparing binary files is useless. If you used MS Office you're hosed, that simple. More useful advice at the end.
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    Yep.
    Again, I believe this to be an upstream problem in a way, but my guess is that if we were using the *current* diffutils to match the KDE version (and a maintainer had done his job in a timely fashion) this bug would NOT exist. My advice, at least until Arch can get diff3 (or, preferably, kdiff3) packaged, STAY AWAY FROM kompare !!!  At least with anything critical, at least until this issue is better understood.
    Upstream, right... diffutils have nothing to do with KDE at all... Arch has diff3 and kdiff3 packaged ... it's no 'issue' at all.
    Okay, I apologize for that 'tone' of mine but I get pissed easily when wasting so much time on something as this.
    I know your problem very well as I'm constantly backing up stuff, comparing directories and hunting duplicates.
    After unpacking everything the first step to take is to run a comprehensive check for binary duplicates. My tool of choice for that task is Total Commander (Win32 shareware, no timeout, just a minor nag screen on start, works fine with Wine). Just a few random keyboard shortcuts you might find handy (see the help file for explanations): ctrl-b, ctrl-f1(-f6), ctrl-c,y, alt-f7
    After killing them, go on to compare ("synchronize") similar directories, either with Total Commander, Krusader, rsync, diff -R, whatever.
    If you encounter similar named files, check the dates and kill the older ones, or compare them if they're not binary.
    And so on... you know best what kind of data you got and how to split it up.
    Throwing plain diff on a set of thousands of files, possibly gigabytes is a huge waste of time and computing/power resources. Adding a frontend will make it crash most of the time, especially with binary files. I think using kdiff3 to compare the Arch Linux 0.8 base beta1 iso to the beta2 one alone should suffice. A few more gigabytes of RAM might help though.

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    Everything was going fine until I put the computer to sleep last night and the next morning, once again, it fails to wake from sleep. Computer "breaths" to life, but the display is dark. Hard shutdown and I get my familiar kernel panics (this is copied from an old post of mine):
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    Latest crash info for cpu 0:
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    0x0037C1E0 0x0037C330 0x0008F804 0x0002C1C8 0x00024C94 0x000B2E4C 0x00008208
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    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(5.3.0)@0x795000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.5.2)@0x77d000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.4.1)@0x632000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.5.2)@0x757000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x60aba500)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x60aab780)
    PC=0x906CF438; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x5292F000; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x906D6360; R1=0xBFFF69F0; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: WindowServer
    Mac OS version:
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    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 9.5.0: Wed Sep 3 11:31:44 PDT 2008; root:xnu-1228.7.58~1/RELEASE_PPC
    System model name: PowerMac7,3
    panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
    Backtrace:
    0x0009B518 0x0009BEBC 0x00029DD8 0x000AF290 0x000B2AF8
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x60aba500)
    PC=0x00A4F4E0; MSR=0x0000B030; DAR=0x00000020; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x00A4F4E0; R1=0x606E79E0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x00A4F4E0 0x00A50034 0x00A55894 0x00A85DAC 0x00A33CF4 0x00376778
    0x0037C1E0 0x0037C330 0x0008F804 0x0002C1C8 0x00024C94 0x000B2E4C 0x00008208
    backtrace terminated - frame not mapped or invalid: 0xBFFF69F0
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.GeForce(5.3.0)@0xa16000->0xab0fff
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(5.3.0)@0x795000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.5.2)@0x77d000
    After sending an obviously frustrated report to Apple I don't know where to go from here. I was dealing with a woman at Apple's customer satisfaction center. When she gets back to me to check in I'm going to relay this news to her. My initial feelings were this was a bug between Leopard and G5 hardware as others were experiencing it.
    <Edited by Moderator>

    Here is the actual log from the crash.
    Tue Jan 13 05:58:33 2009
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    Latest crash info for cpu 1:
    Exception state (sv=0x63654c80)
    PC=0x74044BA8; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0xB3780018; DSISR=0x00200000; LR=0x740446C4; R1=0x63673200; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access)
    Backtrace:
    0x740446C4 0x73EA2C68 0x73E9D69C 0x73EA00B4 0x7407FE7C 0x74084ED4
    0x73DD7E4C 0x73DC11AC 0x73DB1344 0x73FC8284 0x73FB99B8 0x73FB7570 0x73DA9928 0x6385C158
    0x6385C510 0x6397A14C 0x6385C4E4 0x6397BA20 0x6397BC64 0x0003F9BC 0x000B0E54
    Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies):
    com.apple.nvidia.nv40halppc(5.3.6)@0x74029000->0x7420efff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.5)@0x5b2f5000
    dependency: com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.3.6)@0x73da8000
    com.apple.NVDAResmanPPC(5.3.6)@0x73da8000->0x74028fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.1)@0x6384f000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.5)@0x5b2f5000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.1)@0x63962000
    com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(1.7.1)@0x6384f000->0x63866fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.1)@0x63962000
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.5)@0x5b2f5000
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(1.7.1)@0x63962000->0x63987fff
    dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.5)@0x5b2f5000
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x63654c80)
    previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping...
    Exception state (sv=0x63d01280)
    PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown)
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
    Mac OS version:
    9G55
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 9.6.0: Mon Nov 24 17:39:01 PST 2008; root:xnu-1228.9.59~1/RELEASE_PPC
    System model name: PowerMac7,3
    panic(cpu 1 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access
    Latest stack backtrace for cpu 1:
    Backtrace:
    0x0009BCF0 0x0009C694 0x00029EA0 0x000AFA90 0x000B32F8
    Proceeding back via exception chain:
    Exception state (sv=0x63654c80)
    PC=0x74044BA8; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0xB3780018; DSISR=0x00200000; LR=0x740446C4; R1=0x63673200; XCP=0x0000000@

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