Bug in print module in LR2.

Doing a little more testing on the print profile problem.
MacPro 10.5.4 iPF9000 Canon driver 1.30
What I found out is that when going to Print Setup under Color Matching I can choose Vendor Matching and then I can choose CM off in the Driver. If I then hit Print One the print is correct.
If I go to Print under Color Matching I cannot choose Vendor Matching. Both selections are grayed out and Colorsync is shown as checked. Of course I cannot choose CM Off this way. After I have once gone into the Print and then go back to Print Setup I can no longer choose Vendor Matching and have the same grayed out dialog under Color Matching. And off course the print is not correct this way with the double profiling that is going along.
I am providing this information if anybody cares or knows enough about CM here to know what I am talking about. After 20 years of doing color printing I think I know what I am talking about. So, if you don't care to hear this information, so be it.

I also have noticed is that when you choose Print One and then go back to Print Settings the Color Matching choice option are grayed out and ColorSync is the default.
After working with many other software producers (a lot of it beta testing) it is really frustrating dealing with the denial and stonewalling that goes on at Adobe. This was pointed out to them when LR 2 was still in beta. (Maybe it still is)
Interesting that this default Color Matching selection is in PS, but in PS it defaults to vendor matching with CM off as the option.

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After two days of unequal fight with Print Module bug I hope I finally pinned it down.
Hope it saves someone time
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Printing I use often two popular formats 13x18cm and 15x21cm that are close to 5:7 (first one is 5x7in)
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First of all there are couple threads about that problem. I visited them but they remain unanswered
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3344521
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3278739
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/697107
http://forums.adobe.com/message/3885690
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When I drag photo cropped in Landscape orientation such a photo is rendered properly.
When I drag photo cropped in Portrait orientation it's atutomatically rotated 90 degrees (couterclockwise) by "Rotate to Fit option" and that is when **** happens.
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If I switch orientation of the A4 page from portrait to lansdcape, magically photos that are cropped in portrait orientation start to render good (they are not rotated now) while those in landscape start to render wrong.
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Cheers
Robert

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Also it should be noted that selecting the cancel button in the Print Settings dialog brings about this behavior were it defaults to using colorsync and the Color Matching options are grayed out.
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These issues (Dark prints, wrong profile handling, color shift, ...) are persisting since 1.3.x!!!!
Only for some! I use LR1/2 for printing all the time, and its great. Near-perfect color matching, incredibly useful printer presets, great resizing, etc, etc. But I use V64 and Epson printers.
Have you reported your particular problem to Adobe Support?
Bob Frost.

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iMac OS 10.6.8. 8GB RAM.Processor Intel Core 2 Duo. NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS.
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2) LR4 Beta> Print Module;
3) From filmstrip choose image;
4) Template Browser> Lightroom4Beta Templates>Maximum Size;
5) Preview displays as expected;
6) Layout Styles>Single Image/Contact Sheets
7) Template Browser> Lightroom4Beta Templates>click through any other templates (Lightroom or User defined);
8) Image layout in main window does not update;
9) Previews update;
10) Layout Style>Picture Package;
11) Template Browser>Maximum size is then automatically shown, however the template in the main window is actually (1) 7x5, (2) 2.5x3.5;
12) Any further attempts to change the layouts regardless of Style Layout choices are not successful.
13) Close LR4Beta>re-open LR4Beta;
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15) Print Module layouts do not update on the fly as expected;
16) Close LR4Beta and all applications;
17) Reboot iMac.
18) Open LR4Beta only;
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Save As function not available in the Print Module

Out of nowhere, the 'Save As' function isn't available in the Print Module. I have updated to 4.4, restarted Lightroom, etc. I can still export the images, just not save as a jpg. Can you help?

kwhitworth7,
There never was a <Save As> function in Lr, not in the Print Module and not anywhere else. Not in Lr1, Lr2, Lr3 or Lr4.
Lr does not do <Save As>. Lr works with a database, called the catalog, and every step done in Lr is automatically and instantly saved in the catalog. There is no need for a <Save As> - there is not even the possibility of a <Save As>.
<Save As> means that you save the image file itself (under a new name). Lr does not save anything in the image file (except xmp data and you cannot save the xmp under a new name). This is simply not possible.
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Then click on <Print to File ...>. You then get a dialog box (which is part of your OS) where you select a location for the JPG-file and indeed you have to give this file a name.
And, yes, that is a "save-function".
Are you saying that when you click on <Print to File ...> nothing happens?
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More text options in Print Module

It's frustrating to be able to do just about everything in LR - but not quite. I'd like more text options for the printing module. For example, when I'm printing a limited edition print, I put the edition number in the bottom left corner, under the image, within the border of the print. The title goes in the middle, slighty larger font, and then possibly a watermark.
I can use the Identity Plate to create a nice looking title, but the Photo Info will only print in the middle with no options for positioning it anywhere else, or no options for other fonts.

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I can only deduce that people in Adobe print images in two modes.
1) a lonely image in approx middle of the page with no text formatting or
2) an image in draft mode with a caption and a name plate and uncontolled other text in ad hoc placements (totally unsuitable for presenting to a client).
I would put this requirement ahead of so many other popular requests (even ahead of requests such as networked storage, soft proofing, etc). I can mention other software products who do a really good job of printing meta data with images, do serious work on sharpening, etc. for a fraction of the cost of the Lightroom / Photoshop combination. Becasue I am on an Adobe site I will not mention the names of these non Adobe products. If these small companies can solve this problem, surely Adobe can do so as well.
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Adobe, please finish the Print Module. I do not want any more glitzy updates to publishing to the most recent social media exchange medium. Can we not get basic printing working first.
(..... thanks for listening.....end of rant).

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