BUG: With same name jpg and RAW in same folder

OK, we have established that you can't import same filenames RAW/jpg into the same folder, but you can drag them in later. This is useful for stacking.
Bugs that occur when jpg and RAW with same name together in same folder. (have not tested for psd, tif etc.
1. If you rename the jpg, the RAW also gets renamed
2. You cannot move the jpg properly within the folder in grid mode.
Most of my landscape shots need to go to photoshop. I developed a nice workflow which integrates PS quite well with LR...see post here:
http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bc34679/5
I created the workflow so that I could retain same name RAW/jpg stacks in the same folder. I have altered the workflow slightly so the jpg gets autorenamed with filename_# ... see the link above.
Kev

It's the same design issue Kevin. Sidecar files get renamed automatically and these are treated as sidecars.

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I am not sure I understand where your current workflow with the JPGs saves you time:
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Then for selling on the web you export the JPGs thusly edited from LR?
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...Compared to any option with ExifTool or the like for the final RAW-work (4.) you would definitely save the time there.
So the question is: would you really loose time during the critical phase on shooting day?
I guess not, provided your default develop settings achieve pretty much your camera's jpg-conversion. You may need to experiment a little there, make these defaults specific to ISO ranges and camera serial number if you shoot with several cameras, but once this prep is done there should be no more substantial delay.
Unless you post the images directly from camera to the web without passing through LR catalog. Or your field laptop would be of very low spec.
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I've arrived at this workflow through 5 years of experimentation. RAW-only simply does not work for these sorts of events. Most of my 'competitors' shoot JPG-only, for that very reason, but I don't want to lose the RAW option for the print work.

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Just come back from a long trip with thousands of pics in RAW, I like to use Canon DPP to generate the JPGs quickly and to give me Canons interpretation on the RAW image. (Apparently same processing as in camera).
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trshaner wrote:
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