Building new K8N Diamond Plus

Please check my list below to see if these parts will be happy together.
Thanks.

Quote from: Tiresmoke on 23-April-06, 02:29:07
Yah I am torn now between sli'ing this 7800GT or just getting a 7900GTX...
Tough choice. Now Machbuster will witness another possible scenario.... instant obsolescene & not being able to count on buying a last gen card at a reduced price to fill a 2nd slot.
You might better get that 7800GT now TS... Looks like they're going bye-bye!
Check this.... When I was shopping for my 7800GT, NewEgg had 7 or 8 (or more) kinds of 7800GT's.
Now they're down to just these - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010380048+1067917485&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=48
2 of those cards are the dual GPU 7800GT cards and out of the 2 regular 7800's, 1 is out of stock. So just 1 is available to order. And a quick look at zipzoomfly showed all 7800's on BO as well.
I personally would get a 7900GT & slap an aftermarket cooler on it & OC it, but if your budget will allow it, go for a GTX.

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New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
what is the max voltage for the ram
what is the max voltage for the chipset.
any help on this would be great.

Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
5.DDR Memory Voltage:
This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

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K8N Diamond Plus incompatible w/ENERMAX Liberty ELT620

Howdy folks, 1st post and yet I'm about to loose my AMD virginity, so please be gentle.
The new build has already been purchased and is in transit, so info would be greatly appreciated.
I a$$umed 620W Liberty with 12v combined @ 36A is over blown.
That is until I found this site. Still shaking my head at the high amperage needed for this type of bleeding edge tech.
I’m just stunned that (2) 12v 22A rails are considered underpowered…
So any one have any success with this woefully <sarcasm ON> under powered cheap <sarcasm OFF> Enermax 620?
I really need the power and drive connectors, but most of the 26A PS would have too narrow of a head room.
I am well over budget, and the peripherals should be here for a weekend build.
Hoping folks with the Diamond plus and Enermax ELT620 could please post experiences.
Not sure if the second MoBo power plug works off the “other” rail, since I have not even seen this PS or K8N Plus.
Of course, I will post results.
Thank you for your time
Early March build
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
   Factory BIOS this time
Opty 165 Denmark
   ZALMAN CNPS9500
G.SKILL Extreme Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR 500
SAPPHIRE Radeon X800GTO2 (100130VIVOL)
   Most stable driver for text/2D graphics @ 3200x1200
   ARCTIC COOLING AVC-AT5 Rev. 2 VGA Cooler
ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W
   +3.3V@28A, +5V@32A, +12V1@22A, +12V2@22A, [email protected], +5VSB@3A
(3x)Western Digital SE16 WD2500KS - SATA
(5) 120mm Fans & (2) 80mm +PS
ASUS DVD DRW-1608P2S
LITE-ON DVD-RAM SHM-165P6S
CM Stacker 810 RC-810-SKN1
XP Pro SP2
Snagged from my trusty ABIT ST6-RAID 1.4 PIII <old, like me!>
SIIG USB 2.0+1394+ULTRA PATA/133 RAID CONTROLLER
   (2x)Samsung 160G SP1614N – PATA
   Seagate 120 GB PATA ST3120026A-RK

In most cases it should be just fine. The only area where it may fall over in is DLI'ing two of the bigger Vid cards. The reason is in how dual rails split the power. As far as anyone can tell the best solution for SLI'ing two high amp vid cards is still with a single rail PSU. Outside of that the Liberty should be fine by all I can tell without trying it myself. That won't happen though as I gave up on Enermax due to the fact that I want Dual High Draw Vid cards and they simply don't fit that bill in my book any longer. Either you get Dual Rails from them or the wrong cable sets. That is why I went to OCZ.
Your milage may vary.

Does new Zalman CNPS8000 fit on MSI K8N Diamond Plus?

Was wondering about this, and if there would be issues with the height of the copper northbridge heatsink the MSI K8N diamond plus has.
Will this new CPU cooler fit or will it not like the other Zalman 7000 series?

TimeReaper,
I do not see why not:
Take Care,
Richard

Someone tell me it aint so: K8N Diamond Plus nForce4

simple really work were buying a job lot of computer bits and pieces so i thought might as well bung a few things on for myself and take advantage of the discount, so a new mobo, memory, and graphics card ive got more than enough spares hdd, fans, dvd/cd drives
took all the stuff home tonight thought i would stick it altogether leave it installing with baby sitter and go pub. So build it and then look at it strangly thinking im missing something then it hits powersupply, bugger how could i forget the powersupply have no fear i'll just take it out of my other rig. so out it comes and i start connecting it all up then i come accross the 12v cpu connecter and i begin to search for a 4 pin connection on my shiny new mobo and what do i find a bloody 8pin one.
The mobo in question is MSI K8N Diamond Plus, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-939
The power supply in question is found in my sig
My questions is am I screwed, will i have to wait till monday to order a new power supply then wait till it gets delivered or can i just ignore the little factor of 4pins into 8 doesnt fit slap it in switch on and not have the computer start blowing smoke at me. im suspecting a long wait till monday and a longer wait till delivery but stranger things have happened in the computer world

Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
i'll be honest i was thinking your all bonkers
that's not a nice thing to say
Quote from: thorpe on 17-June-06, 18:13:01
got the wife to press the power on button
roflmao this is the best part. i think we should all make our wifes/girlfriends (or the male equivalents) to push the button after a heavy OC or after messing around with the system. that way you can blame it on them if something happens

K8N DIAMOND PLUS RAID 0+1 Question

I have K8N Diamond Plus due tomorrow as the base for the new system I am building. In addition I have 4 Western Digital 320GB SATA drives with 16MB buffers on the way to serve as my storage. My question is this, I would like to set the drives up in a bootable RAID 0+1 array. In fact I would like to have the ability to multi-boot from the array. Is this possible? If so, it would be greatly appreciated to hear recommendations on partioning the array. I would like to dual boot for sure and possibly add a third OS.
Thank you in advance,
--Sarge

like syar said, it will show up just as one harddrive on your machine. that means that you can do with it whatever you are able to do with 1 harddrive: partition, multi-boot etc. since this is your first 0+1 array, i wish you good luck. you're gonna have fun with it, i know i did with my first array (took me 4 hours to figure out what's what, but hey, there wasn't any MSI forum at that time )

K8N Diamond Plus + Adaptec 39320

I have just built the following
K8N Diamond Plus + ATI All-In-Wonder 800GT + Adaptec 39320 + 2 x Atlas 15k II (Raid 0) + 2 sticks of 2100 memory
When I reboot it's 50/50 whether or not we get to see the XP desktop or get a reset. From a warm restart (within XP) it hardly ever boots. From a cold start I get more success. In safe mode it gets as far as MUP.SYS and then waits. After that it may boot XP or reset. Also the XP logo (fade in) at the start stutters a lot.
So I get the Adaptec bios screen, I get the XP logo fading in and then just when you expect to see the blue desktop it resets. I have seen a couple of "controller failed to respond in time" in the XP event log.
Is this some kind of timing issue? Is there a known fix?
thanks
charker

Charker,
You power supply looks like a good one. The reason that Stick and I were jumping on you power supply is that the symptoms you were giving are those that we see a lot of and the cause nine out of ten times is to small or bad power supply. Yours being new this should not be the case, but even the best company let a bad one get out the door some times, for right now I am going to assume that the power is OK.
One other thing before we get to your problem, the Forum likes to see your system specifications in your post or preferred in your signature. It helps us help serive you better, note my signature, if you would had a signature like mine or Stick’s we would not of had the ask you about you power supply and could have gone directly to other causes of problem that can cause you symptoms and saved a lot of time.
Now, there have been many problems with the Diamond Plus. It is a very advance motherboard number and many people with little experience with computer are having the most problems. As you see I am building a new Diamond Plus system and I am also using a third party Hard Drive controller like you are so, I think we can talk and know what the other is saying, but just so I know what level of instructions I need to give when I ask you to do something. Wil you let know a little about yourself and computers.
First, myself and others have had problem with thrashed BIOS parameters that are not listed in the BIOS setup routine, so I would like you to Clear your BIOS as the first thing you do. However, there is a problem here to the MS-7220 MB many people have been having a problem with the reset circuit on the MB. Therefore, to insure you have a truly cleared BIOS and it will not given us problems. Unplug the AC Power and pop the battery out of the motherboard and let it set all night or at lest eight hours. I personally run around in circles for days until some one clued me in to the trick.
Second, unplug all equipment not required to start Windows and see if that has any effect on the problem. Where we are going with all this is looking for some hardware or software that is not responding fast enough or at all the in the required time Windows is giving it. Following this same line check you System Even Log for Warnings or error about hardware or services that Windows has to restart more than once or does not respond quickly enough.
Third, I have new BIOS that if you would like to try it sent me a personal message with your e-mail address and I will send you a copy.
Try all of that and let me know what you find. Do not reply only if you just still have problem, because we like to know if what we have told you worked and it helps other people who may be having your same problem.
If you do not understand any of my instructions or need more details, just reply and we will work it out.
Good luck and hope to hear from you soon.
Roger
When submitting a problem, include a complete list of your system components; include part numbers, all Power Supply Voltages, and their output ratings. It is almost impossible to estimate what your problem is without knowing something about it.

K8N Diamond Plus- bios freeze & question about temp/voltage monitor

A weird issue I had right after I setup my mobo last night was that I could not access the "PC Health" portion of the bios. If I tried selecting it, it would just freeze. Is this a known issue? I'm hoping a bios update may solve this one. Does anyone know anything about this?

Well I was mostly just asking if this was a known issue, so I guess "no" is all the answer I need... Now, what would be my best solution? I am assuming bios update, is there anything else that I should consider?
But if it helps, as I said its a brand new build, so I'm running the default bios. 1.00. My other components are: Silverstone Zeus 560w, 2GB of G.Skill pc4000, Raptor 74gb, 7900gtx, Opteron 165.
Also, since my other thread was locked (I figured seperating two different topics would make it easier for people to respond to specific questions, I apologize,) here's my other question pasted:
"I just set up my new system with this motherboard (K8N Diamond Plus,) an Opteron 165, Scythe Mine heatsink, and a Silverstone Zeus 560w. Its these components that lead to my question-
I am getting temps of about 31C idle, 41C load. Nice temps yes, but I'm not sure how accurate those are. That means that it is idling at 86F in a room that was probably in the high 70's, maybe 80. Seems a little too good to be true, but then again, I am used to Intel's furnace-like temps
Its the voltage reading that has me a bit more concerned though. Corecenter is reading my +5v as 5.36v, and my +12v as 12.28v. The +3.3v is reading about spot-on at 3.33v. I'm hoping that someone else who has this motherboard can tell me this- are the readings in Corecenter for this motherboard generally accurate, and should I be concerned about this?"
Thanks for any help you can give. No sig yet because I just registered an hour ago, I'll work on it.

I need help DDR voltage and latencies (K8N Diamond Plus)

I noticed my DDR voltage was incorrect in the bios and I don't know what "Auto" is doing with my timings. I have 2GB of Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR400 Memory installed on DIMM1 and DIMM2 of my K8N Diamond Plus board.
So far I've made the following changes (as my RAM's specs indicate) in the BIOS but I'm new to this (first build).
DDR Voltage 2.75V
CAS 2.0
tRCD 3
tRP 3
tRAS 6
I left everything else at it's default setting. Are there any other changes I should make?

Quote from: memeticvirus on 14-May-06, 15:41:10
I'm having an issue with the 1.10 BIOS that is preventing me from manualy setting the timings...The problem I'm having right now is deciding what BIOS to install and where to download it. Perhaps you could help me with that?
With pleasure! I had the same problem with the v1.10 BIOS, as did another member here. I flashed BACK to the v1.0 BIOS (make sure to use the command line switched (just run the batch file)) and was able to set timings, and then I flashed directly to the 3.0A BIOS and was able to adjust timings still. See my old thread here.
For my success (I don't know if any or all of these influenced it, but I'm just happy it works) in flashing I did the following:
Download the 1.0 (original) and 3.0A (latest "official") BIOS images from MSI's support site.
Downloaded the DrDos BIOS flash bootable ISO CD image from bootdisk.com
Used my ISO software to add the BIOS image files onto the ISO image.
Burned the ISO to CD.
Booted from the CD
Flashed to 1.0
Cut Power (flipped PSU switch in back), held down the CMOS reset switch button on the mobo and the power button for 45 seconds.
Powered up, set "Optimized Defaults" and set memory voltage to 2.75v and rebooted.
Set all "normal" BIOS parameters (boot devices, et al).
Windows (x64) loaded with no issues, Everest reported timings appropriately
Did the same procedure for the 3.0A BIOS, with similar success.
You can see my post or click on the link in my sig for detailed memory reports.
Quote from: RogerP on 15-May-06, 03:04:55
Are you running just one set of TWINX2048-3200C2's?
Just one pair. I fiddled with the CR and the only result was with the single known good DIMM my latency got slightly slower (like a 5ns drop), but still no love with 2 DIMMS. I think it is just dead. But this is not my story (at least not in this thread)...this is memticvirus's story.

MSI K8N Diamond Plus - Guide to my first week

OK, not a newb here, but been around the block quite a bit. MSI K8N Diamond Plus is my 5th A64 mobo (ECS K8M800, my daily undestroyed computer, K8T800, my 12 year olds gamer, Asus A8V Deluxe, first 939 system, Abit AN8 SLI, first SLI gamer, and now the MSI Diamond Plus). Had the KDP (K8N Diamond Plus) for more than a week now, and here's what I've learned.
This is state of the art again, and we have no one to blame but ourselves for the pain this causes us when we upgrade like lunatics
And as usual, the drivers and BIOS are al Dente (i.e. not cooked enought yet, a little raw)
MSI is also oddly silent on this system, which is wierd, as they are a large company, and specifically cater to enthusiasts. But their BIOS guys are MIA. Hopefully this will not be forever. Asus, ABIT, DFI, Epox are always fast with fixes
The board is a nice design, with everything basically accessible, as much as any other board. Lots of purposeful components, not too many dumb frills. No tooty fruity colors, but rather practical parts.
The new 2 piece NForce chipset is fine, and the MSI guys gave us a decent, but funky cooler. It gets a little warm to the touch when you pound on it with Prime95, or Quake4, but other than that it is fine
The manual has a zillion typos, and fortunately for us in this forum, we have shared what we've learned. The translation from Chinese to English leaves quite a bit to be desired, and hopefully, MSI will learn from Asus and Abit and get a better translation service. In 2006 this is just plain stupid, especially with a $225 board
As usual, the mobo supplied tweaker utilities are just aweful. They look like a hallucination from a Hunter S Thompson book, and they work about as well. Core center is a sad state of affairs, and the rest of them just burrow their way into your otherwise stable system and cause it to have poor behavior. And therefore as usual, the BIOS is the best way, if slowest, to tweak this bundle of parts
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
The board is clearly sensitive, which is a result of it being high strung. This is no different than any "first out" product I've ever bought. Most take 2 or 3 turns of the crank to get totally stable and forgiving. This one hated my OCZ platinum EL 2Gb kit memory, and it brought out the worst in one of the SLI based EVGA 7800 GT COs. These components worked in the Abit AN8 SLI (although not always great), but the MSI has ZERO tolerance for even the slightest pertubation from the memory. It was BSOD city until I removed both of these components by process of elimination that took probably 100 hours
Once I removed the bad components, and replaced the memory with Geil Ultra X 2x512 2-2-2-5, it worked great, ran Prime95 for 10 hours with no errors, and seems reasonably stable. I've RMA-d the bad 7800GT CO back to EVGA, and will report back on how SLI behaves when I get the new one (cross shipped of course, I haveno patience )
I also now need to replace the 2Gb RAM kit with something that the board will tolerate. I may RMA the 2Gb kit back to OCZ and try another one, but I dunno. I love OCZ but I have a bad feeling about this, even though they have great!!! support. I may try OCZ PC4000 or the RAM that Roger successfully used.
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth
Finally, I hope this board attracts more people, and therefore more tweakers that can figure out all these gadgets and settings. Everyone flocked to the Asus X16 SLI product, which is too bad, as this one needs lots o' folks to hack it up for us to figure out what is going on.
The on board Creative audio sounds lousy to my ears, and I will replace it with an Audigy 2ZS gamer that I had in the Abit. It just sounds better, but hopefully the drivers will not trash my newly stable system. Creative scares me, they scare me alot.
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
I hope this info is somewhat valuable to someone on this board. I will post details of all changes that I make, as others are doing, so we can at least take care of ourselves with this thing.

Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
Which brings us to the BIOS. IMHO, the worst one I've seen on a high end board. ZERO explanation for half the settings (this is not strange in and of itself, BIOS is still a black art, but in a tweakers board, we should have some basic explanation )
There seem to be adequate settings in the BIOS for all sorts of doodads and gizmos, but who the heck knows what half of them are. Roger points out rightfully, that we now need to "Tune" across all these different intermediary bus structures and test. But with the lack of info from either NVidia, MSI or anyone else for that matter, its kinda hard to know where to start.
first of all, i do think that all the settings in the BIOS have an explanation in the manual, even if it's a basic one. if that explanation doesn't tell you everything in detail, is because if you do need a detailed explanation of the settings, you probably shouldn't be messing around with those settings.
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I did upgrade to the 1.16 BIOS, and found that some new things were added, as well as voltage control in Cell was a little better, but registration of changes in voltage is still a disaster. I adjusted a bunch of times, it didn't register, and I ended up smoking a new A64 3700+ Diego with 1.95 volts, even though the BIOS claimed it was 1.53. I had to rebot to see what was going on. The Thermalright XP-90 kept the proc from melting down through the earth.
wanna tell me how did you get 1.95V on that mobo?
Quote from: nanohead on 15-February-06, 01:17:10
I've been able to get the CPU up to 2.4Ghz, with a .5 volt bump to the CPU and 2.9 volts into the Geil memory. So far, so stable, no smoke coming out yet
a 0.5V bump? again, you must be joking. maybe 0.05V.

K8N DIamond Plus- 4 sticks of memory problem

I have a new Opteron 180 with a K8N Diamond plus mb. I am thinking about getting another 2g of memory to run with my current 2g of 3200 memory to speed up Vista even more. I thought the new chips could run 4 sticks of memory at 400 with a command rate of 2t. I wanted to try to see if it would work so I pulled two 512 pc3200 sticks from my wifes computer and installed it. At boot up it clocked the memory to 333 (which I expected it to actually) and I got into the bios and set it to 400 with 2t command rate and everything else at default settings. All the memory is Kingston value ram. The computer randomly booted and I had lockups at 400, but at 333 it ran fine, but I still couldn't run the memory at 1t with 333. I am using bios 1.33 as the other bios's always set the HT bus wrong for me. Is this just a function of the motherboard or is the memory not compatable with each other? I thought the motherboard is irrevelant since the memory controller is on the cpu?
Thanks for your help,
Scott

The memorycontroller IS inside the CPU.
And some are lucky to get it stable booting at DDR400 with 4 sticks, some get crashes.
However, most have drop-backs to DDR333.
It's a CPU limitation when using unbuffered memory.
Buffered memory should be able to do it, however, I'm not quite sure as this is an S939 type CPU.
You could try something if you know somebody that has buffered memory.
Sometimes it helps if you lower the other timings.

K8N Diamond Plus, SLI and Creative X-Fi cards, anyone running similar?

Hi there!
I've got an ASUS A8N32-SLI board and my X-Fi card does not work with it, nor does it for many other people with similar setups.
See here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426
and here:
http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=26289
I get crackling and popping noises when running most games, e.g. BF2, Fear, FarCry. When my 2x7800GTX's are in SLI mode it crackles loads, e.g. start far cry, click options, and listen. When i disable SLI mode it crackles less, but it still crackles. Many others encounter similar issues with their systems that are not identical but the symptoms are similar - high load = crackling/popping.
My question is:
Is anyone here sucessfully running any X-Fi card (music, fatality, elite pro, etc) with 2x video cards and NO crackling/popping in BF2, FEAR and FarCry?
I've already had a replacement X-Fi card from creative which their tech guy said "should" fix it, lol, I'm wondering wether to replace my A8N32-SLI with an K8N Diamond Plus to fix the problem. Besides, the MSI board has better PCI slot location and works with nTune too unlike the ASUS board.

What's going on guys.
I hate to see peep's having soooo many prob's and it sucks major BALLZ. The reason why I'm reposting is that I encountered a new issue. Not with my rig, but a friend's.
We pretty much have the same setup. Differences are he's using 2GB of Corsair DDR400 (which is picking up as DDR333 as well), different branded video cards (I'm running two EVGA 7800GT's in SLi, he's running two BFG 7800GT's in SLi), XFi Platinum (me, Fatality Edition) and he's got a dedicated ITE RAID PCI card for his RAID from his previous rig. Configured his BIOS pretty much the same way I have it running (he wanted to Overclock his AMD x2 4400+ to 2.6 GHz), but when it came to installing Windows we kept getting BSOD's during installation. Looked over things numerous times and it didn't make sense. We resetted the BIOS to default settings and Windows went through without a hitch. We tried OC'ing it one more time and Windows was fine. But, when he installed and ran Quake 4, either Windows or the game would just lock up. He booted back into the BIOS and put the CPU back at stock frequency of 2.2 GHz. Game ran flawlessly afterwards. That points at the processor. The only differences were we both have different stock fans and his CPU was manufactured in July '05. Mine in Sept '05. His rig also reports the infamous "Phantom" PCI modem as well.
Quake 4 is the only game he's got installed so far, but he reports everything is set to their highest qualities, including resolution. He said it runs great with no anomalies. He's going to install Dawn of War and Winter Assault later I know.
Me? I haven't run into any issues with any games either, including F.E.A.R. as Hydrasworld asked. Both of our sound cards are in the Communication PCI Slot of the motherboard. My take on the OC issue is since we're using different proc's from different wafers, maybe my chip had revisions in September that the July proc my friend has didn't. Also, his heatsink has one less copper pipe I noticed. I'll still drop by for help. Good luck to you all and the only other thing I can add is try using the latest drivers for each piece of hardware you've got.
LPB
P.S. If you can and you purchased a retail version of the processor, on one of the sides of the carton insert for the processor, a date should be printed. Maybe that can explain some issues. Once more, my proc was manufactured September 15th, 2005.

Aftermarket HSF options for K8N Diamond Plus

Just built a new rig with the K8N Diamond Plus and am very pleased with the board -- worked great from first power up and with a little BIOS tweaking I have no trouble getting a 50% overclock from my dual core Opteron 170. No headaches at all, unlike my previous experiences with Abit boards.
The AMD heatsink fan unit (with heatpipes) provided with the 170 is not bad at all, but I'd like to replace it with a more capable unit, along the lines of the Zalman 9500, Scythe Ninja, Tuniq Tower 120, Thermalright XP-120, etc. The tall heatsink of the Nvidia NB is close to the CPU socket and quite high, so I'm not sure if any of these will fit. Anyone using one of these or similar heatsinks ? Please let me know if they fit, or did not fit.
Since I could find any of the 7800GTX 512MB boards I wanted, I'm using a single MSI X1900XT card right now but plan to go SLI in the future with 7900GTX cards driving the 30" Dell monitor. The ATI video board and nVidia mainboard surprisingly get along great, with no crashes so far and 3DMark06 scores above 6000 -- the X1900XT is an impressive piece, and much faster than the X800XT-PE I had in my previous computer. But the fan can be extremely loud and the Catalyst Control Center sucks. Unfortunately the old ATI control panel is no longer offered...

TimeReaper,
The problems your are talking about are not uncommon with this MS-7220. The BIOS Clear Circuit physically has problems and that is not something they are going fix with a BIOS upgrade.
The BIOS Clear Circuit actually trashing the values stored in the CMOS by not doing a complete clearing of the CMOS is causing the problem. What leaves trash for parameters, for the BIOS to use when rebooting.
Let give you an example that fits your case. You can set the BIOS to turn the system on at any give time and date. So, if the trash in CMOS is in those parameters storage location. Therefore, whatever trash value gets stored in the locations, as a dated and time, will turn the computer on at that time. So, you could of had the computer come on in the meddle of the night two week later. Now, think of all the functions the BIOS have and how many weird things people are having and do not know why. There is one guy that is a regular on the Forum how has been fighting a problem I know is caused by trash in the BIOS CMOS, but Strick and I have ask him to do a good CMOS clearing and he just will not do it. I even wrote out in great deal the over night CMOS clear procedure I use. It is a pain in the ass, but some times, I have too use it. I just had to use it, upgraded V3.09 using short CMOS Clear and had no problem. Used the short procedure again when upgrading to V3.0A and everything when to hell, had to finally use the long overnight procedure and reinstall Windows to get computer to run right again.
NoBS, when your computer goes BOOO during the night just plain it o MSI.
Roger
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K8N Diamond Plus boot problems

I just built a new computer and it was working fine for about a month. Then one morning when I started it up it wouldn't turn on. The front LED's turn on, and the fans all start, but nothing ever shows up on the screen. The set of four lights on the back show R R
G G
Nothing has changed since the pc was working fine. I haven't changed any bios settings or added any hardware or software. I did try resetting the bios using the CMOS jumper, but this didn't change anything. The lights on the back show that it is initializing ide drivers, but in the manual it also shows that it is one of the last steps in the start-up process, so i would think that the memory check, processor count, msi logo ect. should appear on the screen like it normally does. However, the LED that blinks when the hard drive is active never lights up, but when i open the case and feel the hard drive i can feel it vibrating like it is functioning properly. And if it is a hardrive failure, then shouldn't the bios still start up and show up on the monitor? I have heard that many weird problems can be attributed to the psu, but I have a 500w Antec Smartpower 2.0, which is a pretty reliable psu from what i've heard. Any help or suggestions would be welcome. Also, how would i test individual components to find out what is causing the problem? I think since everything is within a couple of months old i should be able to get replacements. Thanks in advance for any help.
System Spec:
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD Athlon X2 3800+
Nvidia 7600 GT
Maxtor DiamondMax 300gb ultra16
2gb Corsair Twinx xms ddr400
500w Antec Smartpower 2.0
Thanks!!

Quote from: Mikeyp926 on 15-August-06, 12:58:47
You guys are awesome! Thanks a bunch for the info on ram, I feel like I understand it better and I looked and found all the stuff in the bios that you guys were talking about. I'm downloading speedfan currently and will go install it on my other computer. I tried swapping the sticks of memory, but i ran into the same problem i did before. So i'm assuming that i can safely say one stick is faulty right? And do any of you guys have any experience trying to get replacement memory from crucial? I'll have to go poke around their website also. Well, thank you all so much for all of your help. This is my first home built pc and i'm trying to learn alot about them. Once everything is running properly i may try a little overclocking, but i'd like to get everything running smoothly first. Just out of curiosity, what would make a stick of ram go bad like that? It was only a month old, and i thought crucial xms was pretty good ram. Is it not? or did i just get unlucky?
Thanks a ton for all the answers, this forum is the most helpful one i've ever seen. thanks!
Maybe that you're unlucky to get those faulty RAM. Crucial RAM is not bad if you get the better performance if you're ocing your PC if or else get the value RAM if you don't oced.
Quote from: Svenomous on 15-August-06, 12:55:00
Speedfan 4.29 works with the K8N Diamond Plus. I have it running now
Ok. Get it but not sure about MBM as it seems that it don't support it. :p

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