Built-in Line In on MB for Logic?

My question is does the built-in line input on the macbook work in logic. I ask this because in logic express when I go through the Setup Assistant steps and have the built-in line in audio port selected, it says that the selected driver is not available and will use the built-in in's and outs. However when I go to the I/O tab there is no input...I know in garage band it works fine, but I was just wondering if anyone might know why this is?
Macbook Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi
You should not have to enable it. Remote Management (VNC) is enabled by default on all OSX Server Installations. If you know the IP address of the server on your 10.5/10.6 workstation you should see it in the sidebar. Clicking on its icon should give you access to either connecting to it or Sharing its Screen. Select the Share Screen option and provide the server's admin name and password. Hopefully you should be looking at the Server's desktop.
If for some reason the facility was disabled then you should be able to re-activate it using ssh and kickstart:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2370
If for some reason this too was disabled you're going to have stick a monitor on it and manually configure the facility. System Preferences > Sharing > Apple Remote Desktop/Remote Management.
You may have serious problems administering a 10.4 Server using Server Admin Tools for 10.6:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1822
HTH?
Tony

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secound possibility is to update the changed tables(eg: RFBLG...) to conversion tables.Follow the Note but make sure no R3load processes are running before you start SAP. If you dont want to wait long and sure to restart other processes which are running you can kill it and start SAP. Specify your error tables only and follow instructions given in the note.Once done bring down SAP app. and restart the export process using ur sapinst or distribution monitor.
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Edited by: J. Senthil Murugan on Nov 3, 2008 1:40 AM
Edited by: J. Senthil Murugan on Nov 3, 2008 3:37 AM

Dear Senthil
I had faced this issue earlier.
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Please share the relevant information--- seems some steps are missed out or not carried properly in the CU&UC phase.
Otherways, we had applied the solution Note 991401 - SYSCOPY EXPORT FAILS:SAPCLUST:ERROR: Code page conversion and it worked well..
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I have my FCP audio setting (found under Audio/Video settings) set the same as my system settings, "Built-in Line Output" for Audio Playback. I get no sound, to my external speakers, when playing a clip with this setting. If I switch to "Built-in Output" it plays fine through my tower's built-in speaker. I've reset and rebooted and nada, what am I over looking?
Edit in: BTW, all other wares play fine through my external speakers.
Thanks

I think you answered your own question. All audio should be AC3.

Harmonization/Chord tool plugin for Logic?

Hello everyone,
I'm a saxophone player by trade, and unfortunately my piano skills are sub-par, which I feel is hurting my compositions. I can hear all sorts of chord progressions in my head, but finding them on the keyboard proves difficult, and by the time I find the first few chords, I've sometimes lost all sense of the progression/composition. Its worse when I dont have any ideas in my head, as exploring chords on the piano is an exercise in frustration!
So I'm wondering, are there any type of "chord aids" or composition tools on the market to help me write music quicker without being a piano virtuoso? I'm currently using real guitar in chord mode to figure out chord progressions, but it can also be a limitation to only hear things through an accoustic guitar with no sustain. My goal is to be able to compose something, and figure out what I did/how to play it later, rather than being limited by what I can play on the keyboard. I guess this is why composers still write with pen and paper...but who writes progressive rock on paper!
I'm of course working on developing my "straight to paper" skills, as well as my piano abilities, but in the mean time, are there any tools out there to aid in this, like a chord tool for logics environment that will automatically play chords out of single notes ala real guitar? Or even some type of harmonization plugin for midi data? There has to be something out there to help us non-piano players, right?
Thanks in advance for your help/reply.

Eriksimon wrote:
Hey, Robin, lighten up, I don't think he intended to be mean. He's from Munich, you see.
Haha... yep, that curious combination of humor and a direct unadorned response.
I like it.
That was a great explanation of dropping center panned tracks out of a stereo mix, although one may hear some vocal reverb splash way back in the mix. I'll have to try this and see what the vocals are covering up.
If you're a Beatles fan or interested in any of the recording techniques used this 55 minute George Martin interview is a must. He has some examples with him. Really worth a listen!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00mc0cc#synopsis
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p.s. I love this line...
"Performance took precedence over perfection".

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