Burn speed - revisited - Macworld

Back from Macworld, talking to the Disc Maker guy about burn speed. Here is what I do.
1. Build project
2. Burn using Toast as slow as you can, DVD1x - don't use computer during burn.
3. Take master to our DiscMaker 4 burner. Copy to drive, Set burn speed as slow as I can, 1x
4. Burn blank media
He said it is not necessary to burn the copies at 1x. Good to burn the master slowly but set the burn speed on the DiscMaker at the speed of the blank media (presently Taiyo Yuden 8x)
Experts, what do you think?

On the video yearbook issue it may be worthwhile to have it replicated (not duplicated). Usually 1,000 is a minimum for most places else you get whacked with mastering charges. BUT seeing it is a yearbook it would seem to be better to pay a bit more - the students will buy them.
(FWIW I have not priced short runs like that recently, but I am not talking about $10 a unit including mastering. In fact you may want to do a run of 1,000 just due to pricing and you should be able to get it printed packaged and delivered for a price where students can buy 1 and get 1 half price for grandpaarents or something. Not sure if it is a profit center for you (are you part of the school?) But you can sell them for a price where people will not even blink. And alot less than what I paid for any of my print yearbooks Of course knowing this made me get real angry when I saw the junk that was foisted on my niece as a DVD Yearbook for some ungodly price if like $35 -:(

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Revisiting DVD burn speeds

In an effort to better my DVD burn times, I upgraded to a new internal DVD 8x/Dual Layer drive.
After installation, I burned a DVD of previously recorded material that I had also burned on the old drive.
Much to my disgust, the new 8x drive using the same 8x rated media burned at the same old 2x speed!
I burn with Toast 7. Out of curiosity I clicked on RECORDER>DISK INFO and found out the following about my blank DVDs (HP dvd-r 8x):
Write Speeds 1X, 2X
Then there a manufacture ID with a MORE button that takes you to a web site that tells you all about the reliability of the media and even comments from users.
The surprising thing for me was that even though the disk is labeled 8X, Toast rated it for much lower speeds. And it only burned at 2X
Then I found another site with some good DVD media info at:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
So I guess before I shout too loud that my iMac's burn speeds are slow, i need to look for better recording media.

Not all media is created equally. Drives include in their firmware a list of write strategies for various brands of media. If the drive doesn't have a write strategy for the particular media that you are using it will make an attempt to burn the disc, usually at a slower speed (you would rather it worked but be slow, than be fast and fail). In some rare cases you will get a power calibration error, where the drive just couldn't figure out what to do with your media.
Toast isn't doing the speed limiting, the drive is telling Toast what it can burn the disc at.
I would stick with purchasing name brand DVD, Iike Verbatim, most drives include their media in their wrtie strategy lists.

I can't burn a cd of my own created music. I either get the error 4261, or after "Checking media" the process stops and nothing further happens. Have tried different burn speeds and cds. Have re-installed iTunes.Any suggestions please?

I can't burn a cd of my own created music. I either get the error 4261, or after "Checking media" the process stops and nothing further happens. Have tried different burn speeds and cds. Have re-installed iTunes.Any suggestions please?
wm0203

Sounds like the CD drive died. Luckily they cost next to nothing to replace. Or get an external LaCie instead. I have a dual G4 1.25 and the CD drive was always so anemic I use a LaCie Porsche with it.

Can't burn disc via iTunes. Burn speed too fast. AGAIN!

"iTunes can't burn this CD because the burn speed is too fast for your CD burner or media. Choose a lower speed in the burning pane of iTunes Preferences then try burning again".
I have been having on going problems burning CD’s in iTunes for YEARS, and I know I am not the only one. I get the error message above. Having checked the forum at the time, and posted for help, I am know there is no real solution except to change brand of disc.
Thing is, now I can’t get ANY brands to work. I’ve been through Verbatim, Maxell, JVC, Sony, but none work. The only brand that would work were TDK audios which I can no longer find anywhere.
I know its not the burner, as Toast works fine, and I know I am not alone. Anyone got any ideas?
Even after years Apple seem to be blanking this question. It’s very frustrating not being able to burn my purchased itunes downloads to disc.

To anyone who is interested I think I may have found a possible solution. When you put a blank disc in the drive, wait about 30-60 seconds or so for it to stop spinning before burning.
This seems to work. It's a bit sticky but eventually works. I tried both TDK & Maxwell discs and 9 out of 11 worked. Absolutely no reason why the other 2 didn't, but it's a lot better than none.

What are the advantages of varying write speeds and burn speeds?

What are the advantages of varying write speeds and burn speeds?

The slower the speed, the fewer burn errors (or, in other words, you'll burn fewer "coasters"). I've always tried to burn at a slower speed, i.e. 2x - 4x. I'd rather wait a few minutes more and I've never had any burn errors.

Issues burning discs on iTunes/ error message about burn speed

I've never had problems burning discs on iTunes until today, I tried to burn one of my playlists on a Memorex CD-R.
- The burn seemed to be going OK at first, but the drive started making an obnoxious, loud noise by the 4th song out of 16.
- The progress bar in iTunes then said "burning disc, finalizing" even though the CD had not been finished.
- The drive practically launches the CD out, causing it to drop, rather than ejecting half way and holding it like usual. An error message came up saying something along the lines of, "iTunes cannot burn this CD because the burn speed is too high for the CD drive or media. Lower the burn speed in the burning pane of preferences"
- I tried it again without changing the burn speed (which I suppose was set to maximum) thinking it was something to do with the disc. The same thing happened the second time I tried to burn the disc. The reason I didn't change the burn speed when it asked me to was because I'd never been prompted about the burn speed and I've used the whole stack of these Memorex CD's without problems.
I am trying to figure out where the problem really lies - does this sound like an iTunes issue (which needs an update except that my system does as well), CD issue or a drive issue? Is there a more reasonable burn speed I should try next time?
Any help would be so appreciated, thank you!!
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Try a different brand. Highly recommended:
FUJI
TDK
Verbatim
Make sure the CDs are not dirty, smudged and/or scratched.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=50448 How to Handle and Clean CD and DVD Discs
Your drive may need cleaning. Cleaning kits can be purchased from any store that sells CD/DVDs.
Repair permissions after each burning session.

IDVD - what brand of disk and burn speed?

I have an ibook and bought a Sony DVD burner. I have OS 10.3.9, and the Sony DVD burner said it was MAC compatible for OS 10.4 or later. So I got Patchburn and the DVD works. However, I've got a really crappy burn when i watch it on a DVD player. I read somewhere on here that it could be the make of the blank DVD, that Verbatim's are best (why?), and that it might be my recording speed...instead of 20x perhaps 1x would be better (I believe that's what I read). My questions are this: what are good DVDs to purchase for recording, and how do I control the burning speed for the Sony or is it within iDVD?

Verbatim discs are highly recommended around here; I also like Sony discs. Higher quality discs have fewer manufacturing errors, and the better dyes are more durable/compatible. Here's a discussion:
www.digitalfaq.com/media/burnquality.htm
Slower burn speeds also mean fewer errors on the final disc. Most of the time it takes to "burn" a DVD is actually encoding the video files, so the extra time it takes to burn at 1x or 2x isn't that much different than 8x (that must be quite a burner at 20x DVDs).
To best control the burn speed, there are two options but both involve creating a disc image (in iDVD, Save a Disc Image). This virtual DVD can then be tested, and if it works well, you'll then copy the DVD onto your media. Burning the copy is accomplished with Roxio Toast or Apple's Disk Utility.
John

CD burner error: Burn Speed Too Fast

Whenever I try to burn a CD on my eMac an error message says
"iTunes can't burn this CD because the burn speed is too fast for your CD burner or media. Choose a lower speed in the burning pane of iTunes Preferences then try burning again".
It even says that when the burning speed is on x1. It says that on every speed. So does anyone know how I can fix this problem and make it be able to burn CDs? Is it because I have nearly 10,000 songs on my iTunes, so that is somehow making it slow down?
The blank disc I'm using is "High Quality Pure Silver CD-R 80 Tevion"
It has 700 megabytes (80 minutes) on it, and I want to burn a CD that is 60 minutes, exactly. So, help? Thanks.

Let me see if I can help you understand your delima.
Just because you buy a very expensive Media Brand, doesn't mean it is any good. There is such a wide range of quality in CD's and DVD's it is really hard to select what is considered to be the best.
A very good guide to use for Media in general for both CD, and DVD's is below.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
Next there are a couple of KEY points to remember when burning, these will help you.
Never have any other Applications open when burning.
I tend to use either CD-R or DVD-R Media, the reason is these 2 formats are the most widely used and recognized in all Players, and Computers alike.
Always choose the slowest speed to get a high quality burn.
This next suggestion is probably the most important.
Not all CD-R's and DVD-R's are the same
Read the packaging carefully
Many will explain that they will burn at all speeds from 1X upwards
This will help insure that your burner Software will choose the correct speed.
Don

How do you reduce the burn speed on a pc???

I've been getting the dreaded 4310 error and discovered, through searching the discussions, that reducing the burn speed could solve the problem. However, I can't find anything on how to do that on a pc? I have a compaq nc6000 laptop.
I've had the problem only rarely before today but, for some reason, it is now happening on every cd I try to burn.
Thanx!

From the Edit menu select Preferences. Click the Advanced tab, then the Burning tab. You can set the burn speed there.

Burning Speed in Itunes

What is the normal time it should take to burn and audio CD in Itunes? I have a the superdrive that comes the with the Powerbook G4 12 inch but I feel like burning a CD in itunes 7 is a lot slower than it was in 6. Anyone know?

I haven't noticed any difference burning from iTunes 7 vs 6. What is your burn speed set to in your iTunes>Preferences>Advanced>Burning panel? I have mine set to the top rated burn speed for my SuperDrive or 24x rather than Automatic. I believe your SuperDrive has the same write speed according to this review. See if changing the burn speed to a specific number improves the write performance.

DVD Burn Speed - should I go Fast or Slow?

Please help! I am getting conflicting advice regarding the best speed to burn a DVD Video (in DVDSP, iDVD, Disk Utility etc) that will be used as a duplication master. I have read online that you should avoid slowing down the burn too much (I think because the disc dyes etc are 'optimised' for faster speeds) and that you will run into problems if you burn an 8x disc at 1 or 2x. However, a technician assures me that you should slow the burn right down and that professional duplicators and production houses never burn a DVD at its rated speed! Who is correct? Any help or links appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Burning too slow is often just as bad as burning too fast.
It's possible this may apply to the latest / newest DVD Burners on the market but not necessarily to the Burners that have been on the market for some time now like the Pioneer 103 for example. I own three separate burners, all Pionneer (103, 107, and 110U). The newest S-Drive I own is a Pioneer 110U in an ext. FW Enclosure. Originally my G4 733 came with a Pioneer 103. It still works but it now lives in an older G4 PM as a backup ... Still works great (at SLOWER BURN SPEEDS)!
But slower is better on this particular early model /S-Drive. And the same applies to the Pioneer 107. However, it does not apply to the latest Pioneer burners like the 110U, 111, nor the 112.
As pointed out in the above article you mentioned media can and often does contribute /influence the actual write speed that the drive will default to when burning a DVD. Very good article btw and thanx for bringing it to our attention.
Contrary to what is written in the above article though .... "slower is better" provided your burner is also an earlier model (and perhaps not so if you have the latest/ newer burner/s).

How do I know the correct burn speed?

My Pioneer/Apple DVD burner is recognized in the iTunes preferences, I have DVD-R media, but when I try to back up my iTunes, I get an error message saying that the burn speed is too fast for my media. I selected 1x speed in preferences, and I still get the error message. I've wasted 3 DVDs trying to backup iTunes. What am I doing wrong? The DVDs say up to 16X and so does the DVD burner. I'm using an iMac OS X 10.3.9.
iMac Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I am using a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D external, with USB 2, and was using Verbatim DVD+R 16X DVDs. I had tried Memorex earlier with Toast 6, and the burner would start to burn, then just stop. I have successfully burned photo DVDs with it using Toast 5 and the Verbatim DVDs. The DVD burner is supposed to burn up to 16X, as well. I have a large iTunes library, but wasn't given the option to select playlists before burning the DVD. Thanks, Linda74020

Disk Utility : Cannot set burn speed

I've created a DVD disc image from DVDSP3 and want to burn it to a new DVD-R at less than 8x speed, but Disk Utility has greyed out the speed setting.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks!
-Bob.

Yes, you can set the burn speed in the iDVD '08 Preferences (finally).
I just can figure out what your problem is with Disk Utility - it's probably something simple we are overlooking.
+++++++++++++++++
You are CERTAIN that the DVD you tried had not already been burned to?
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Burn Speed for DVD mastering - fast or slow

Please help! I am getting conflicting advice regarding the best speed to burn a DVD Video (in DVDSP, iDVD, Disk Utility etc) that will be used as a duplication master. I have read online that you should avoid slowing down the burn too much (I think because the disc dyes etc are 'optimised' for faster speeds) and that you will run into problems if you burn an 8x disc at 1 or 2x. However, a technician assures me that you should slow the burn right down and that professional duplicators and production houses never burn a DVD at its rated speed! Who is correct? Any help or links appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Ian
I have read online that you should avoid slowing down the burn too much (I think because the disc dyes etc are 'optimised' for faster speeds) and that you will run into problems if you burn an 8x disc at 1 or 2x.
The general advice around here is burning at slow speeds to avoid playback problems. DVDSP will allways burn at max speed and that's one of the reasons for NOT using that burning workflow. I allways create a disc image of my project and burn it with Toast and/or Disk Utility, where you can select the burn speed.
After all, you can ask to your duplicator what they prefer.
Hope that helps !
Alberto

Burn speed

Hi there,
I have a PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D superdrive on my iMac flat panel. Can someone tell me the recommended DVD I should use and what burning speed I should use?
I have iDVD 3 and I'm trying to burn an iMovie project with iDVD and it's not going very well!

Specs of the Pioneer DVR-106D fitted to the iMac G4 17" (taken from this article).
• Write Speed
CLV 1X and 2X at DVD-R
CLV 1X, 2X and 4X at High-Speed DVD-R
CLV 1X at DVD-RW
CLV 1X and 2X at High-Speed DVD-RW
CLV 2.4X at DVD+R
CLV 2.4X and 4X at High-Speed DVD+R
CLV 2.4X at DVD+RW
CLV 4X, 8X, 12X and 16X at CD-R
CLV 4X at CD-RW
CLV 4X and 10X at High-Speed CD-RW
•Maximum Read Speed
CAV 12X at DVD-ROM (single)
CAV 8X at DVD-ROM (dual)
CAV 6X at DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
CAV 32X at CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW
On the Pioneer 106 personally I have found better luck with media with media rated at 1- 8x and 4x Max. This is getting more difficult to find though. I'm currently working through a spindle of Sony DVD-R 1-8x. If I have a problem with any media I've usually had success by switching down to 1x burning (in Toast etc) and this has had a 100% success rate. Trying to burn some faster media at 4x (the 106's max) has not always worked well.
HTH
mrtotes

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