Burning 3 hours of audio?

I have read some threads on this topic but found no solutions. I have mp3 lecture files I want to burn on to one DVD. iDVD won't do it. I have Toast 6 but that won't work either. I read somewhere that Toast 7 - (with JAM, or without. this is unclear?) can burn Music DVD's. So that means it is possible. But can I do it in iDVD? Or for that matter, any other way?
Any help? Thanks.
noodle--head

I'm unclear what you want the final use to be. Certainly Toast can burn mp3 files to a data DVD as can Disk Utility. Are you wanting these to be playable on a video DVD player? If so you can either get Jam 6 which enables the Music DVD option in Toast 6, or you can get Toast 7 that has that feature without needing Jam 6. I know that's confusing.
An alternative is that many DVD players can play MP3 CDs. You can add your MP3s to Toast 6's MP3 Disc setting in the Audio window and burn them to CD. If your DVD player is one that plays MP3 CDs then that solves the problem.

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These figures are for a 1 hour 40 minutes movie, with 3 tracks of Audio, trying to save to disk image on desktop. 80 Gig of HD free.
When iDVD appears ‘hung’ it is actually saving to a file, called ‘tempmovie.mov’, in the iDVD project, which in turn is actually a package. I used a spreadsheet to track the size over time of this file, which hit a max of 1.01 GB in my case.
• First attempt, 3 audio tracks....
Rendering Menu/Assets took 3 1/2 hours.
Rendering Audio
- Phase 1. iDVD ‘locked’ and ‘unresponsive’. Rendering the file tempmovie.mov took 42 hours using up to 80% of processor time. iMovie used 12-18%. Initial spurt of several hundred Mb of file size in an hour, then about 100 Mb in second hour, then adding to the file at a low of 10 Mb per hour, high of 15 Mb/hr.
- Phase 2. Spinning activity wheel (burning wheel?) started back up after indeterminate time (running at night). New file called ‘CurrentAudio’ created, but not added to, no files ‘growing’. iDVD unresponsive, but not marked in the Activity Monitor as such. Menus greyed out.
Rest of audio terminated after waiting 60 hrs with iDVD using average of 13% processor time. I gave up on it, had to force-quit. iMovie was using about 8% of the processor time.
• Second attempt...Single audio track.
Trashed old iDVD project. Opened iMovie file with Garageband; took 41 hours processing time to merge the 1 stereo track and two mono tracks to 1 stereo track. Saved audio as two stereo tracks of 192 bit AIFF in less than 10 minutes. Exported it to iTunes.
Turned off two tracks in iMovie file (top & bottom tracks), erased third (center) track and imported Garageband track to center via iTunes. Sent to iDVD.
Rendering Menu/Assets took 3 1/2 hours
Rendering Audio
- Phase 1. iDVD ‘locked’ and ‘unresponsive’. Rendering tempmovie.mov took 16 1/2 hours, max. 80% processor for iDVD, max.12% for iMovie. Initial spurt of 240 Mb file size in first hour, then about 130 Mb in second, 90 in third hour, 66 in fourth, average of 45 +/- 6 Mb per hour after 4 hours. At end, 20Mb file ‘CurrentAudio’ created.
- Phase 2. 14 hours at least spent with iDVD only using average of 2% of processor, iMovie using 5.5%. No spinning ‘burning’ wheel. Again, iDVD was unresponsive, but not marked in the Activity Monitor as such. I terminated the process with a force-quit.
• Third attempt. Trashed, then re-installed iMovie & iDVD, with updates. Single audio track, erased the turned-off bottom track, as Activity Monitor had showed iDVD still opening the clips from the turned off bottom track during the second attempt.
Trashed old iDVD project. Made small edit to iMovie project. Changed destination for finished disk image to Movie folder rather than desktop.
Rendering Menu/Assets took 3 1/2 hours
Rendering Audio
- Phase 1. iDVD ‘locked’ and ‘unresponsive’. Rendering tempmovie.mov took 1 hour 45 minutes. Initial spurt of 600 Mb file size in first hour, then about 570 Mb/hr for balance. max. 88% processor for iDVD, max. 3.2% for iMovie.
- Phase 2. 11 minutes to save disk image.
Conclusions.
Using three tracks of Audio increases the rendering time enormously (42 hours for audio).
It also pays to erase unwanted tracks in iMovie rather than just unticking them (16 hrs vers. 1.75 hrs for audio).
It takes the same amount of time to render three tracks in iDVD as it does to export them to Garageband, (and you still have to re-render in iDVD afterward).
Either iDVD doesn’t like saving to the desktop, or I had a corrupt/missing file that prevented saving the disk image. Probably the latter.
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Brian,
this year's price "Most Longanimous Person of The Year" belongs to you!! THANKS for you efforts and reports..
you've probably read Karl Petersen's reports about some mysterious "benchmark", when an iM project gets stuttering/unrespondsively due to "too many" audio clips..
.. I'm actually producing my Xmas gifts.. 55min project = 2h encoding ... (see spec below) ...
but: I'm editing my iM projects mostly on an external harddrive; and it is a "habitual ritual" of mine, to import the final movie as QT/Full Quality file onto my internal hd, THEN fire-up iDVD => never had any trouble with audio-encoding; my videos are "solid" dv-streams ...
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Music DVD - how I have come to loathe that description, along with the equally ghastly "Audio DVD".
Both usually mean DVD-Video containing music, and should definitely not get confused with DVD-Audio although well authored DVD-A discs will also play on video only players.
Pharther Phurther wrote:
Roxio Toast has a Music DVD option that can add hours of audio on a single DVD.
I tried to look for info on how to do this in Encore .. but there is nothing.
As a slideshow, my test only had three audio files .. which took up 1/4 of the disk.
What is the smallest audio file to import into Encore? I used a mp3. I saw a transcoding menu pop-up that converted the m.mp3 to ac3
Can I save space and steps to do this?
Anybody make a Music DVD before?
Frequently - Encore is somewhat limited in this respect because the DVD specifications were not really set up with audio playback as the primary stream type so it's always a bit of a fudge getting things right as changing any video or graphic asset forces the audio to change right along with it.
I suspect that the Roxio app you mention is cheating by what it is not telling you - reading it carefully I see no mention of any visuals or imagery being used, so I think it is simply taking one timeline of audio and matching it up to a blank video stream, and allowing you to add markers as chapter marks.
The result would be many hours of audio to blank screens....
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Message was edited by: jrjr729

Hi
Can it be so that You use DL-DVDs ? They can be problematic - I only use SL-DVDs
Else
No audio on DVD disc.
Most common origin.
1. Imported audio from iTunes.
• In iTunes copy out as an Audio-CD .aiff (Same as played on standard Stereo CD - no .mp3)
• Use this in Your movie project
2. Low - Free Space on Start-up/Boot/Internal/Mac OS Hard disk makes it hard for iMovie to work as intended.
Down to 1.3 GB and it doesn’t work - especially audio don’t migrate over to Media Browser (iM’08 & 09)
3. Material in iMovie’08 & 09 - Shared to Media Browser and here selected as MEDIUM (or ev. as Large)
large.m4v. It silenced out this project in iDVD. By making a slight alteration - provoking it to ask for a new Share/Publish to Media Browser and here selecting 640x480 - and audio was back when a new iDVD project was created including this movie.
Minuscular - - 176x144
Mobile - - - - - 480x360
Medium - - - - 640x480
Large - - - - - - 720x540 960x540
HD - - - - - - - - 1280x720
4. Strange audio formats like .mp3, .avi etc.
• Change them to .aiff. Use an audio editor like Audacity (free)
5. Main audio is set to off in System Preferences - Does this by it self - Don’t know why
Cheque Audio-Out resp. Audio-In
6. Ed Hanna
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Downgrade Perian from recent versions back to version 1.0.
That worked for me, and so far I haven't encountered any deficiencies — except it takes more advanced versions of Perian to enable QuickTime to handle subtitles in .srt format — that I have noticed.
7. GarageBand fix.
In this set audio to 44.1 kHz (Klaus1 suggestion)
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• Do a DiskImage (File menu and down)
• Double click on the .img file
• Test it with Apple DVD-player
If it’s OK then make Your DVD.
Burn at x1 speed.... (or x4)
• In iDVD 08 - or - 09
• Burn from DiskImage with Apple’s Disk Utilities application
• OR burn with Roxio Toast™ if You got it
Yours Bengt W

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Sorry you have run into such a problem
This is exactly why all of us recommended that you do a 'Save as disk image' BEFORE burning to disk. It is exactly the same process, takes up the same amount of space and will allow you to identify potential problems before you waste disks. Once the disk image is created, you can play it back on your computer to be sure everything is ok. Then, when you actually burn the disk, using DIsk Utility, it takes only a fraction of the time because all the encoding is already done.
See Len Goff's explanation here: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=914789&tstart=0
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