Burning Dual Layer +R at 8x Speed

I have a new Mac Pro, and I've burned dual-layer at 2.4x no problem, except it took forever. I can get a tub of Datawrite DVD+R Dual Layer Full Face Printable 8x at a pretty good price...
... the only thing is that the supplier says some dual-layer burners have issues with 8x.
Am I safe with my Mac Pro?
Thanks Guys!

I just got a set of Verbatim DVD+R DL 8X disks (4X sets of 15 each) at an amazing price of $27.99 each and i have just burned 8 movies with an average burn time of 12 minutes each (and then i verified them for an additional 30 minutes each) using Toast Titanium 7... i have a stock Pioneer 111D and it is yet to put out a coaster (over 8 months)... i have not yet tried to burn a DVD-R or a DVD-R DL... i am happy with what wurks for me...
BTW my previous burn times on the 2.4X averaged around 30-35min each + verified of 30+min also... with the same drive...
also the amazing price on the Verbatim DVD+R DL was @ Best Buy store special (Santa Rosa, CA), not advertised...
Happy Burnin'
namaste

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Message was edited by: AshleySmith06

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:
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angie1976 you have me directly.
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http://www.videohelp.com/dvd
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Maybe some others as well can.
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There are of course different Advertisements and FAQ's that cover these to some degree that leave users more confused than when they started.
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Not all Burners will accept all the different Media's that are available on the market.
Thus leaving many users confused. Not having a clear cut understanding of what the difference is between these different Media's and there use.
http://www.videohelp.com/dvd.htm
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Toast-7 and Popcorn.
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However, there is so much controversy over the issue of Movie and Music copying, the manufactures of the Computers, and the Burners try to limit the users ability to copy these, and thus be clear of any Legal Issue.
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The burner manufactures offer there burners.
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Be through, give as much information as you can.
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In-depth. Tell all aspects of the issue and what you have what you are using and what you want to accomplish.
If there is an answer out there.
Someone will Chime in.
The users on these forums for the most part are more than willing to share in there knowledge, free of charge.
One last thing,
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I personally have been misinformed, or tried a fix, that will work in one instance but not another. So tell all you can about your problem.
Cheers Don

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