Bus Area & Profit Center activatin in ECC 6
Hello Experts...
I am not well versed with new functinality of ECC 6 .. I want to know the pros and cons of activating Business Area when profit center is activ. As I heard tht SAP is not going to support Business Area in near future. and encouraging for profit center.. but one problem with profit center is that in so many transaciton Profit center is not the selection creteria liek clearing transactions..
So anyone can give me brief about this
thanks a lot
Regards
Pooja
PROFIT CENTERE ACCOUNTING IS PROFITABILITY PRODUCTWISE ,PRODUCT GROUP WISE OR LOCATION WISE IF BUSINESS AREA ISNOT ACTIVATED.
IN FUTURE IN CASE OF ECC6.ONLY CLIENTS WIL GO FOR PROFIT CENTERES BECASUE IN THIS CASE DOCUMENT SPLITING ALSO WIL EFFECT TO AND GIVE THE BALANCE SHEET PROFIT LOSSACCOUNT THROUGH PROFIT CENTERE WISE
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