Business area-cost centre relation

Hi,
Guide me relation between business area-cost centre, bus area-material, bus area-plant-division and bus area - sales area,plant.
Regards,
DH

Hi,
Follow the Link, I think it may help you
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Relation Between Company code Business Area,Cost centre etc

Hi Experts,
Can anybody tell me How the following are related to each other the same is mentioned below.
1.Company Code
2.Business Area
3.Profit Centre
4.Cost Centre
5.Cost elements
AR

Hi,
Follow the Link, I think it may help you
[http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ERPFI/BuldingBlocks(Masterdata)ReleventtoControlling]

Business Area & Profit Centre

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Hi,
What is the difference between Business Area & Profit Centre.
how alternative profit centre is from business are.
any documentation available.
Regards,
Shekar.

Business area:An organizational unit in external accounting, which corresponds to a separate operational or responsibility area in the organization, and value flows recorded in Financial Accounting can be assigned to it.
The business area should be treated as a separate economic unit, for which you can create an internal balance sheet and a profit and loss statement. The business area is, however, only an internal organizational unit and does not have any external impact.
You define business areas if you wish to create a balance sheet and a profit and loss statement for internal areas, in addition to company codes.
Profit Center:
A profit center is an organizational unit in accounting that reflects a management-oriented structure of the organization for the purpose of internal control.
you can use your profit centers as investment centers.
Profit center Accounting at the profit center level is based on costs and revenues. These are assigned statistically by multiple parallel updating to all logistical activities and other allocations of relevance for a profit center.

Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment

Hi,
In my current business scenario shall I use Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment all together at a time or if I use Business Area and Profit Centre, Segment configuration is not required there. Kindly guide me these 3 activities and its exact purposes in the business.
With regards,
Samrat

Hi ,
We are using ECC 6. In our business scenario profit centre is there. Under Document splitting there is a Business Area and Profit centre in config area.. Should we mention Segment field under document splitting. If we mention segment under Document Splittng inspite of Business Area, what are the problems may arrises ? Or if we mention all 3 (Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment field) in document splitting what may effect in other areas.
Kindly guide me.
With Regards,
Samrat
Edited by: Samrat Roy on Nov 2, 2008 4:42 PM

Settlement to different business area cost objects

Dear all
In my requirement We are carrying the work at one Business area on behalf of another business area. The maintenance order has some expenses amount,after completion of the job i need to settle into another business areas cost objects. But sap is giving the error only. Is ot possible?

The below error is getting while settling orders into another Business area cost objects.
There are no accrued amounts; settlement is not possible.
Message no. KD256
Diagnosis
The sender has a results analysis key, but no accrued values.
Either the accrual was not yet started for the sender, or the values to be settled from the accrual equal zero.
Note
Actual costs are only settled once the sender is technically completed or finally delivered.
This applies to
o     Projects that cannot carry revenues
u2022     In Service Management for sales order production to the indicator (Calculate WIP for orders in sales order production) set in the accrual version for
o     Production orders
o     Internal orders with no revenues
o     Orders with no revenues
u2022     In Service Management for engineer-to-order production to the indicator (Calculate WIP for orders in engineer-to-order production ) set in the accrual version for
o     Internal orders with no revenues
o     Orders with no revenues
u2022     In Service Management to the indicator (Calculate WIP for internal and service orders with no revenues) set in the accrual version for
o     Internal orders with no revenues
o     Orders with no revenues
u2022     To the indicator (Calculate WIP for production orders without settlement to material) set in the accrual version for
o     Production orders without settlement to material
Procedure
1. If necessary, start the accrual calculation for the sender
2. Restart settlement

Business Area - Cost Center - Urgent

Hi,
I have encountered a problem with business area wise document splitting. I have selected business area wise document splitting after posting values in the cost centers. now I need to assign business area in the cost center master data. Because of the cost center is having values, it is not allowing me to assign business area in the master data. Now i want assign business area in the cost center master.
And in Cost Center Master Data the Business Area Feild is mandatory field, thats why it is not allowing me to change the period and to create a new cost center with the same CC No.
Pls help me out in this regard
Thanks in Adance
Raveendra

Hi,
try to run the following ABAP: RKACOR06 It allows you to change the business area in the cost centre master.
Hope that helps, points welcome
Csaba

Business Area-Cost Center error while doing VL09 (PGI Reversal)

Hi Friends,
Kindly go through the "ERROR" message and "IMPORTANT" point as mentioned below:This is happening while reversal of PGI in VL09.
IMPORTANT: Just to make you aware, the cost center in error (CONSDSPL) was nowhere assigned in FS00 or OKB9. Also to state that at the time of this error some different cost center was assigned in FS00 which was having business area SUGR. So PGIs are picking up two business areas i.e. 1.DSPL (from Plant-Division-BussA setting) & 2. SUGR (for P&L GL from FS00)
Following error coming while doing PGI reversal:
ERROR -
> BAL1/CONSDSPL CTR belong to business area DSPL not SUGR
Message no. KI188
Diagnosis
Account assignment object BAL1/CONSDSPL, type CTR is assigned to business area DSPL. You made an explicit assignment to business area SUGR.
System Response
The posting row may contain only one business area.
Procedure
Perform one of the following actions.
Make an explicit assignment to business area DSPL. To do so you must set the "Business area" field as entry-ready in Customizing.
Enter an account assignment object assigned to business area SUGR.
Change the assignment of BAL1/CONSDSPL to business area DSPL. Note the document number and continue processing the document after changing the assignment.
PLEASE GUIDE. NEEDED ANSWER BADLY.

Business area filed in cost center CONSDSPL is DSPL (what it should be). In this scenario, they have assigned SGPRODCTN cost center in GL master wherein business area is SUGR.
That means, when accounting entry is getting generated, it will show two business areas. One will be fetched from "Plant-Division-BussA" setting (SPRO) & the other from GL. Also to make you aware that here the business area should be DSPL, but since they assigned wrong cost center in GL master, the entries are going to SUGR as well.
Most important thing to notice out here is that when this error came "no default account assignment was done through OKB9" The cost center showing in error viz. CONSDSPL was nowhere assigned. So the question is from where the system is fetching this cost center?

Gl account no and cost centre relation

Hi friends,
I need to know there is any function module available to get cost centre from gl account number or any other way to get that?(requirement is to add cost cente in a report copied from f.08 standard report).
Regards,
Shans
Moderator: Please, avoid asking basic questions

Hi,
In FBL3N, give the following details:
GL Account Number
Company Code
Fiscal Year
Date Range,
Execute the screen, it will show you the line item details, there you can enable field Cost Center by Ctrl+F8,
The table for GL Open Item is BSIS and for cleared one it is BSAK
Hope it is clear, assign pts if helpful
Br,Vivek

FI:Business Area,Profit centre

Dear All,
Its a ECC 6.0
We have 4 different product & physically two plants Now is it possible to get different balance sheet at plant level & product wise?
Or
Is it mandatory to have different plants for each profit centre to get balance sheet at profit centre level & in this case how STO's will be apportioned.

Hi!
It is possible to have balance sheet Plant Wise. But, as per statutory compliance, I don't think product wise balance sheet is possible.
One profit center should be allocated to only one plant. One profit center asignment can't be possible to more that one plant. In case of STO, profit center would change from supplying plant to recieving plant and same accounting entry would get generated at the time of Goods Issue from Supplying plant. At the time of GR document, no accounting document would get generated seperately for recieving plant.
Hope it will clear your doubt. Revert back for more information.
Thanks & Regards,
Taral Patel

Cost centre without business area

Hi All,
I have document splitting with business area and profit centre mandatory, along with this i have configured business area wise FSV in OBY6.
We have configured 10 business areas and 5 profit centres, but i have created cost centres without business area and i dontwant to create cost centres with business area becoz junk master data in system and no control to users. also i have done configuration in OKB9 for automatic posting expences account with the combination of valuation area-business area- & cost centre, but when we are posting any financial document though MM or SD transactions like PGI or MIGO for service, system is not allowing to post financial document without business area cost centres. Error "Business Area XXXX / Cost centre XXXX is not assigned".
After all analysis i came to know that, if we have cost centre with business area then only we can move with this set of configuration. Is it right?
In No. what need to be done. basically we dont want to create cost centres for all Business Area
Thanks in Advance,
Sahil

Hi,
If you are not ready to maintain BA in CC master you should write Substitution / you should maintain derivation rule for deriving business area.
Regards,
Viswa

K088/I3000 CTR belong to business area 7210 not 7220

Hello SAP Guys,
Can anyone help on this bec error is happening on while I am doing Deprecation run through AFAB and also step step the task need to be done to rectify this error.
Plz see the error.
Message no. KI188
Diagnosis
Account assignment object K088/I3000, type CTR is assigned to business area 7210. You made an explicit assignment to business area 7220.
System Response
The posting row may contain only one business area.
Procedure
Perform one of the following actions.
Make an explicit assignment to business area 7210. To do so you must set the "Business area" field as entry-ready in Customizing.
Enter an account assignment object assigned to business area 7220.
Change the assignment of K088/I3000 to business area 7210. Note the document number and continue processing the document after changing the assignment.
Hinweis:
This message is sent as an error in the standard R/3 System. You can make the message a caution or deactivate it entirely in Customizing. Use the Implementation Guide under "Controlling: General" and choose Change message control. Enter area KI and message number 188.
If you deselect this message, the system does not issue an error message if the given business area differs from the business area of the account assignment object. The system always assigns to the business area of the account assignment object.

Hi MArk,
Thx for your Reply.
K088 is our Controlling Area.
I3000 is Cost Centre which I assigned to My Depreciation G/L in OkB9
7210 and 7220 are Business area.
We are not using any Internal Order.
In Fact, here Business area is activated and I have put "2" indicator in the Assignment and there in Business area Details I have maintained the Valuation Area/ Business Area/Cost Centre . Also all Assets have Cost Centre and Business Area assigned appropriately.
Regards,

Cost allocations with business area info

Hi Expert,
Is there any way to allocate cost to cost centers, including business area ? i understand that the standard allocation process in SAP do not allocate to business area. How about manual cost allocation posting ?
Thanks.
Angel.

Hi,
I have the following scenarios.
Scenario No. 1 (allocate cost within same cost center but different business area)
Cost center A with Business area 01 - $1000
to allocate the cost to :
Cost Center A with Business area 02 - $500
Cost Center A with Business area 03 - $300
Cost Center A with Business area 04 - $200
Scenario No. 2 (allocate cost in same business area to different cost center)
Further allocation base on scenario no. 1
Cost Center A with Business area 02 - $500
to allocate the cost to :
Cost Center B with Business area 02 - $300
Cost Center C with Business area 02 - $100
Cost Center D with Business area 02 - $100
Please advise if there is a solution on the above.
Thanks.
Angel.

COST CENTRE EXPENSES WITH THE HELP OF COSP

hi all,
i have to make a report on cost centre expenses with the help table COSP.I have to put cost centre from OBJNR in which last five haraters are cost centre and period like month and year.After that in report display i want KSTAR i.e. in down the line and cost centres of selection in vertical it may increase or decrease depending on selection.After that i have to add all the WTG001-WTG016.if in seletion period is 1 to 2 then i have to add WTG001 and WTG002 in corresponding in KSTAR and so on in desired cost centre column below that facing respective KSTAR.If anyone can send any report relating that i will be thankful.
Regards,
Praveen

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Assign Business Area to Controling area

Hi All,
Please tell me How we can Assign Contrling Area / Cost Centre to Business Area?
Regards
Ajit Gawade.

Dear All,
when we have activated business area financial statement. the Business area is mandatory in Cost Center. Pls tell me how to deal with in the following scenario
Co Code: 1
Business Area: 4
Cost Center: 10
So in this scenario, will we create 10 costcenter or 40 cost center (10 Costcenter X 4 business area).
pls tell me which is advisable and why.
regards

Business Area is not pulling for Balance Sheet Accounts

Hi,
For few Balance Sheet GL Accounts (From MM side), Business area is not pulling while doing MM Cycle. For other Balance Sheet GL Accounts (From MM side), system is pulling the Business area by default.
I have checked all the Field Status Group configuration and all. Still could not find the route cause for this. Can any one help me why it is not pulling Business area for Balance sheet accounts when doing MM cycle.
what should i do if system has to pull Business area for Inventory Related Balance sheet GL Accounts?
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Sunil

Hi,
in OMJ7, assignement were there properly. Still why i am not able to pull Business area for Balance Sheet Accounts.
I Can give one Clue: For Inventory Finished Goods, system is pulling Business area and for Inventory Raw material and Inventory Semi-Finished Goods system is not pulling the Business area.
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Sunil

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