Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment
Hi,
In my current business scenario shall I use Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment all together at a time or if I use Business Area and Profit Centre, Segment configuration is not required there. Kindly guide me these 3 activities and its exact purposes in the business.
With regards,
Samrat
Hi ,
We are using ECC 6. In our business scenario profit centre is there. Under Document splitting there is a Business Area and Profit centre in config area.. Should we mention Segment field under document splitting. If we mention segment under Document Splittng inspite of Business Area, what are the problems may arrises ? Or if we mention all 3 (Business Area, Profit Centre and Segment field) in document splitting what may effect in other areas.
Kindly guide me.
With Regards,
Samrat
Edited by: Samrat Roy on Nov 2, 2008 4:42 PM
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Shekar.Business area:An organizational unit in external accounting, which corresponds to a separate operational or responsibility area in the organization, and value flows recorded in Financial Accounting can be assigned to it.
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