BUSINESS CONTENT AND LO EXTRACTION

Hi ,
Please tell me
1) what is the main difference between BI content and LO extraction.
2) What happens when we install business content and what happens when we do LO extraction.why are we doing this extraction.?
3) Which process must be done first.
and LO is for logistics extraction i.e. SD,MM etc.(please correct if i am wrong)
4) what about extraction with respect to finance is there anything like LO extraction for finance also?
please explain in simple english.
regards
lap.

well,
I think you don't have to care too much about what did the R/3 consultant; of course what they have configured will be reflected in BW. The configuration impacts on how the data is populated and if your business objects are populated in R/3. It may or may not fit with the business requirement and sometimes it gets complicated to represent the data in BW.
But that's why we have the business content.
So you activate BC objects you need to report on in BW. LO datasources and extractors will be part of this activation. Then you connect both systems and extract this data. You'll have to check with your business req if your extraction reflects the R3 data as wanted by definition.
I a fresh server, you will then just customize and implement all the workbench necessary (IObjs, Cubes, ODS, transformations....). if your system is empty then you won't data to check! But you'll move your developpment to a BW QA or PROD sys which will be connected to a client in R3 having data (otherwise your SD consultants wouldn't be able to test either...)
Replication: when a DataSource has been changed in the source system (R3), the BW receiving structure has to be adjusted. this is done via the replication procedure.
The source system keeps a timestamp of when the DataSource has been reactivated the last time. BW has also this timestamp in its DataSource. When you change your DS in R3, the timestamp will be updated. If you request now data in BW from this DS, the system will complain because both DS (in BW and in R3) have different timestamps. That's why you have to replicate prior loading.
The replication may inactivate follow up objects like extract structure, transfer structure and TRules.
hope that helps...
Olivier.

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Pls check ur inbox....
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BI content and LO extraction difference

Hi ,
Please tell me
1) what is the main difference between BI content and LO extraction.
2) What happens when we install business content and what happens when we do LO extraction.why are we doing this extraction.?
3) Which process must be done first.
and LO is for logistics extraction i.e. SD,MM etc.(please correct if i am wrong)
4) what about extraction with respect to finance is there anything like LO extraction for finance also?
please explain in simple english.
regards
lap.

1) what is the main difference between BI content and LO extraction.
BI contenat means the objects delivered by SAP. This includes data sources, data providers, info objects, udate rules, transfer rules, reprots, etc etc.
LO extraction refers to the process of extracting logistics data.
So, these two are not comparables.
2) What happens when we install business content and what happens when we do LO extraction.why are we doing this extraction.?
When you install BI content, all the objects ( depending on the mode of collection in RSA1 - business content) and if they are already present in the system in which is installed, merge.
LO extraction, as said in 1. above, when you extract LO, depending on the application area, it extracts the transaction data. For example, if you chose extract Sales order information, it picsk all the sales order data from the R/3 system.
3) Which process must be done first.
You need to install the BI first before you start the LO extraction process.
and LO is for logistics extraction i.e. SD,MM etc.(please correct if i am wrong)
YES, you are right. LO referes to all LO processes such as SD, MM, PM, PP, QM, CS. etc.
4) what about extraction with respect to finance is there anything like LO
For all other extractors, there is no special steps like LO. However, for COPA and FISL there wont be any BI content data sources.
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Changes In Business Content and Extractors after r/3 upgrade

Hi All,
We are in the process of upgrading from R/3 4.0b to ECC 6.0.
with the BW system bein upgraded to BI 7.0
Question.
What changes would occur for the business content and extractors after the R/3 upgrade.
Thanks in advace.
Regards,
Nikhil.S

Hi Nikhil
The datasources remain same, U can migrate them in BI side from 3.5 to 7.0 using RSDS -tcode.
All extractors remains same, Well it again depends on the service packs u r using.
Now the latest for BI is service pack 17 and for Business content patch is Patch 10.
U can find new datasources like 0FI_GL_14 and 0FI_GL_40 and many other queries.
In BI side
1.If you have update rules you will have to create transformations and there is no shortcut here ..if there are routines you will have to write them as well and change the syntax as some of the old syntax of 3.x is no more valid in BI 7.
2.Data loading concept changes as you can bypass the Infosource(but in few places you will need it actually like when you are directly loading from datasource to target and you want to read master data).
3.DTPs will be required..changes in the Process chains for the same.
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thanks

Installation of Business content and activation

Hello,
Our Source system is ECC 6.0 and
BW :NW2004 S and SAP NetWeaver BI 7.0 .
We are able to create source system conection successfully . after installing the business content and replication, all the data souces in BW are still in Version D only. Do i need to select each DS individually to activate ? or am i missing any steps ?
Any help is highly appreciated ?
Regards

Hi,
I was also passed this latest information from my colleagues in Product Management.
The method I explained is the old method for activating DataSources and extractors. It is still valid in SAP NetWeaver 2004s but there is a new, and easier, methid to do this now.
Also if you have followed my instructions, there is an additional change in the replication process and a decision you must make:
"Once the customer has activated the DataSource via rsa5 in source system, then he/she needs to replicate this datasource to BI. During the replication, he/she is asked via pop-up whether he would like to replicate these datasources as 3.X DataSource or 7.0.x DataSource.
If he decides to replicate these datasources as 7.0.x DataSources, then the A version of this datasource will be seen in table RSDS, instead of the original table RSOLTPSOURCE.
So if the customer checked table RSOLTPSOURCE, then he/she only see the D version.
This could be the reason that customer still only see D version after the datasource replication."
The new method is:
"- If you have a 3.X datasource, during the source system connection, the D
version of DataSource is already replicated into BI.
- With transaction RSOR in BI, you need to select the related transfer rule, and via transfer rule you are able to collect the 3.X DataSource.
- Then you need to push 'install' button to activate this datasource.
- After activation, the A version of DataSource will be available in BI and in Source system.
- If you have a 7.0.x DataSource, the steps are the same like 3.X datasource. But via transaction RSOR you are able to directly select this datasource (object type RSDS).
So with BI capabilities of NetWeaver2004s technology, it's no longer nessary to run rsa5 in the source system to activate the datasource."
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Business Content and Data Sources automatic binding

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I am not clear about the Data Sources and Business Content sync.
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SAP BW Business Content and R/3 Tables

Good morning
I wonder if you can help me.
I am at a BW-MM implementation.
From where I can get a list of Business Content extractors and tables which is supplied by R / 3.
For example:
0EC_PCA_1 -> GLPCT
I need this information to implement the MM module in BW, but if you have or can help with additional information from other modules I will be grateful.
I await your help and thank you very much!
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Hi,
Check the BI content.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/37/5fb13cd0500255e10000000a114084/content.htm
Go to the original page from there by clicking the arrow buttons.
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I am busy with the BI 7 Analysis Authorizations concept. I have gone through SDN as well as other sites and obtained numerous guidelines for applying these authorizations. I will not be utilising the migration tool as I will be creating the new analysis authorisations from scratch.
I have replicated the datasources in the myself system.
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Can any one point me to the right place or if any one know any thing please through some tips on this
What are the benefits of using Business Content?
What is the importance of Metadata repository?
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Farooq

Hi Syed Farooq,
Business Content is a pre-configured set of information models based on consistent metadata in the SAP BW.
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The cube got activated and all the objects associated with it. What I didn't realize was that the InfoSource used for the DSO of the cube was also used by a custom DSO which has already been deployed in QA.
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Hi Swetha,
I am not too sure, if i understood ur problem correctly but,
If your BI QAS system is still good.. that means ur custom DSO is still linked to old version of Infosource in BI QAS.
The talk to ur BASIS guys and ask them to transport the Insource/Transfer Structure from BI QAS system to BI Dev system.
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Cheers
CK

Business content and extractors :material

hi all,
any body having the business content material
please forward to my mail id:[email protected]
thanks
bondu

Hi Bhaskar,
Check this SDN link. You can find a lot of documents on Business content & Extractors
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/docs?rid=/webcontent/uuid/ac0ca14e-0a01-0010-7596-c8756f80a56e [original link is broken]
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/people/sap.user72/blog/2005/01/19/logistic-cockpit-delta-mechanism--episode-three-the-new-update-methods
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