Business content Extractors and customer generated extractors

Hi Gurus,
I have following doubts on Extractors can u please clarify the following
1) what is the difference betwwen Business content Extractors and customer generated extractors?
2)why FI-GL and COPA are called as customer generated extractors ?
3)what is the difference between FI and Fi-sl and why FI-SL comes under customer generated extractors Extractors why not FI ??
Regards,
Nagarjun.

Hi,
You will go for Business Content extractor when the Customer requirement match with the content extractor delivered by SAP, other wise you will customize or create a Generic Extractor.
Check the below link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/c9bd342fdf1368e10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/80/1a66d5e07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c1/ea683cc5e8ca68e10000000a114084/content.htm
i am not sure abt the customer generated extractors

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