Business Process and sub Process IN ERM and CUP

Hi Friends,
We are in intial stage of GRC implimentation. Now I am uploading the roles into ERM and CUP. I have defined business processes and sub processes for the roles and upload the roles successfully in ERM. But when I am doing the same excercise in CUP especially during creation of sub process it is not allowing the charecter "-" in the name space.
E.g. Business process name is EHS-SM (Uploaded to CUP)
Sub process name is EHS-SM1.1 (not allowing to create in CUP wher as successfully created in ERM)
My question is
1. why it allows me to do the same thing in ERM but not in CUP.
2. Is there any way to maintain the name with chaecter "-".
For your information I am in the phase of defining the attributes for the roles.
Thanks & Regards,
Satyabrat
Edited by: Sunil Varghese on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM
Edited by: Sunil Varghese on Oct 28, 2009 11:01 AM

Hi all,
I will have a hard time ahead with BP and SBP. all are in the same format. I dont think my company will agree to change the name of there BP or SBP because they are thousands in count and also there is no other way around in GRC,
Let give me a try...
Thanks Guys for your support and time.

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i export a legend and sub title for revisiont and then import it
i get a white text on withe background why ?
my font on the project are white is it because of this ?
Thanks

let me explain better :-)
in captivate 5 there a feature for people to export legend and sub title so some one could revise the slide text etc...
i exprt it in word format but the doc created we could reed the text cause the text is white on a white background
any idea ?
Thanks

No data in Business Process Analytics after setting up BPA and BPMon

Hi,
I have followed the BPA set up guide and done all the configuration for BPA. I have set up BPMon for a solution and in the logical component node i have done configuration for many application monitors.
Also in the "Load Master Data" node the master data is loaded. But still in BPA when I am selecting the time frame and applying it I am getting a message that no data is applicable in the selected time frame.
How can i get the data in BPA.

Hi Vishal,
1435043 - E2E Workload Analysis - No applicable data found
specially section 3) EFWK Resource Manager Job, wehre you find several
hints to check this job and the EFWK Adminsitration.
Also check note: 894279 Background processing in SAP Solution Manager
Please have a look at following chapter of the the BPA Setup
guide to fully understand the data flow in this application:
2 Architecture of Business Process Analytics
> 2.1 Data Retrieval and Reporting
Please also review following chapter, in to see if there are any errors
extracting the data from the managed systems to SAP Solution Manager:
3.2.3 Checking status of Solution Manager Diagnostics Extractor
Framework (EFWK)
Also check:
1570282, 1643303 and 1602437
thanks
Regards,
Vikram

Difference between business activity and service process in transaction

Hi Friends,
Can anyone explain me the difference between business activity and service process in transaction category of service desk
Thanks & regards,
Shanmugam Balamurugan

Hi,
Activity means e.g.. sales call, customer visit etc.
But service process means after you sale your product if some service related issue arrives then that is taken care by this transaction.
Inspire by rewarding.
Regards,
Nikhil

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