Business Rules and BPEL integration

hi
can u provide me information on how to integrate Business Rules with BPEL. do provide me any documents related to this, if any.

Hi,
In the new 10.1.3 release (scheduled to hit the streets this summer) Oracle provides business rules support in the BPEL product.
Supported in 10.1.3 are Ilog Jrules as well as Oracle's own business rules engine that will be contained in the package.
More info on new features can be found in a recent web seminar for which the replay can be obtained here: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/bpel/htdocs/webinars.html.
Hth, Sjoerd

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