Business rules attached to form

Hi
Business rules attached to form was disappeared, after we install 9.3.1 shared services services pack1.BR's is there in EAS and i can run them from there.But i can not see them in any where in planning.I am not able to see in the list of BRs, when i am creating new form as well.I checked the securityin EAS for Brs, it is same as before,i added our admin group as well, still ican not see in planning....
Plz suggest....
Thanks,

In EAS, check if the outline selected points to the application under the Planning server.
Check for the access privileges and locations within EAS.
Restart EAS, RMI and Planning. Login to Planning as the Planning administrator, then into EAS and check.
Try using another administrator rather than the default admin.
HTH-
Jasmine.

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So the Sales_Value rule runs regardless of what rule you attach to the form?
How are you running the rule? Run on Save, or through a right click menu? Just by clicking the rule on the left?
Can you confirm that:
In the Administer Forms and Ad Hoc Grids screen, the "Production_Quantity" rule id definitely attached and that in the Properties tab, you have the correct box ticked for that rule (e.g. Run on Save etc).
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I created a composite webform and attached a business rule.Rule is supposed to run on save.But its failing to do so.Version is 11.1.2.3.I also tried attaching BR to the individual webforms along with the composite webform.Still not working.
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Did you select Run "Rules from Form XX" in composite Form Business Rule section and select Run on save option ? Can you please provide screenshot of your BR section in Composite form and simple form ??

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Thanks John, but unfortunately, neither one of those is my issue. The first says I can't have the business rule on the base form if I have it on the composite form. The rule is not on the base form, and it still won't run on the composite form. The second one I don't understand at all. The symptom "Business Rules are not running with composite data forms when the 'Run on Save' option is checked". The cause "The Business Rule is not running when it is run from a base form." Huh? This is a cause? The solution: "You need to attach the Business Rule to the composite form, not just the base form." This would seem to indicate that I have to have the rule on both the base form and the composite form. It doesn't work no matter which way I set it up.
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The problem is explained in thread subject, i have a need to create a numbered list in a coulmn of some form via business rule.
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Edited by: s0uLr1pPeR on 14.03.2012 8:44
Edited by: s0uLr1pPeR on 14.03.2012 9:04

one more suggestion i want to give it to you,
when you are writing a Base fix
you can also write in this way
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--XAT

For a simple in-sheet calculation like this, you might consider two other solutions:
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Hi Anthony - thanks for your response.
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Please help.
Thanks.

Known Issue: 9900514
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Gurus,
I cannot launch a business rule. When I try to launch it, it gives a message "the rule cannot be launched because it has hidden rtp variables without default value"
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THANKS

Maybe it relates to the issue
9900514 - "The Use Members on Data Form and Hide Prompt options for business rules attached to composite data forms apply only for runtime prompt values from the globally shared pages and POVs of a composite data form. In other words, this will only use members that are shared across all component data forms. If users want a business rule to take context from a single component data form, they should attach the business rule to that component data form and include the business rules for that component data form at the composite data form level (<Business rules for componentX>)."
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

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Hi There,
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