Business Rules Disappearing in Calc Manager

I've got a classic planning app on 11.1.2.1 running business rules through calc manager but just the other day I logged in an i could no longer see the business rules in calc manager when i go to expand the database. The rules still run and are visible in other places like the business rule security manager but not in calc manager. I tried restarting calc manager, reconfiguring weblogic, creating new rules (which actually works but the old one still are invisible). I migrated over the environment from another environment, without luck. Any idea's what could be wrong?
Thanks!
Mark

Hi, have you migrated rules though Appication Group->Foundation->Calculation Manager path of LCM? Or just rules with your application. It looks like the second but it's not enough you should use first one too.
It's not explain what have happened with you rules but may help you to restore them

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