Business Rules in end2end-po-processing

I am trying to distinguish between the BPEL component and the Oracle Business Rules component within the Oracle SOA Suite. I was curious if there were any aspects of the Oracle Business Rules component in the end2end-po-processing tutorial? If so, I was curious if you could point out the specific differences in this tutorial between the BPEL component and the Business Rules component? If the Oracle Business Rules is not a part of this tutorial is there an example tutorial that incorporates both the BPEL and the Oracle Business Rules components?

On the TP3 page there is a link to the tutorial that shows you how to add Rules to the end to end PO Processing tutorial.
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/ias/bpel/techpreview/index.html
Once you do this tutorial, you will have a better understanding of Rules and can re-frame your question.
Heidi.

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Vishnu

Just in case, here is some documentation about changing the syncMaxWaitTime
http://download-east.oracle.com/docs/cd/B31017_01/integrate.1013/b28980/bpel_install.htm
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I'm able to see the "Build Failed" error from the "Ant" tab, but I'm trying to find the log file that might give me the root cause of the problem. How do you figure out the cause of this error?
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Hi,
The output of the ant is on the most right tab of the log panel.
It should give you more info about the failure.
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Dear JHeadstart Team,
I have some questions regarding integration of JHeadstart and Oracle Business Rules and Oracle BPEL Process Manager. As a matter of fact I don't have any work expriences with these tools so my questions may not be good and precise.
1- Using a business rule engine can dramatically increase speed of development and ease of maintenance.I had a very good exprience in using JHeadstart and Headstart in the past but I wanted to know if it is possible to use Oracle Business Rules in conjunction with the JHeadstart ? If so, What steps should be taken? Is there any known issue about this integration? Does Oracle Business Rules have any interference with JHeadstart or it is only used in model layer during insert,update,delete?
2- Is it possible to develope a system based on oracle work flow engine (Oracle BPEL Process Manager) using JHeadstart ? If so, What steps should be taken and how the changes in the flow of work would by applyed in a system developed by JHeadstart. Is there any known issue about this integration?
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Couple of things I would like to add, are the following.
In the context of an ADF application usage of Oracle Business Rules most likely is in the business logic layer, but mind that it does not need to be restricted to that.
Oracle Business Rules takes so called 'facts' as input, evaluates some rules based on that and change those facts or return some result. That might be checking a business rule as defined in the JHeadstart Developers Guide. But it might also return some value that is used in a navigation rule.
Think about a page flow where after page A normally page C is presentend, but in case of some situation (like a customer ordered something and you want to present some special offering based on that) you want page B presented in between (i.e. A -> B -> C). Oracle Rules could be used to determine this page flow. This would be an example of using it in the controller layer (probably in combination with using facts that come from the model layer).
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I have installed Oracle EPM 11.1.2 .
When I run rules through Hyperion planning the rules that go in to job console do not show a change of status even though they are completed. I checked Essbase logs which shows that the BR has completed its processing yet in Planning job Console it shows the status as "Processing" .
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Check out:
Business Rules Jobs with Status "Processing" in Planning Web? (Doc ID 966683.1)
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To see the exact execution time, you can check in HBRlaunch.log file in planning.
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When using a "Business Rules" with a BPMN Process, we can change the business rules without redoploying the application by using BPM Composer. I would like to know if it is possible to do the same thing when we use a business rules with a BPEL Process.
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Hi Neeraj,
Thanks for your answer,
BPMN Process exist only in Oracle BPM Suite, in Oracle SOA Suite we have a BPEL Process to model the business activities
My problem is when I try to open a deployed project from Business Composer, it opens only projects where I use a BPMN Process. So when I use a business rules with a BPEL Process, I can't open the deployed project from the Business Composer.
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Edited by: Bilou on 1 juin 2012 12:53

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I am running Consolidation business rules - IC Match & consolidation process , I can see the some number of records getting generated but not sure what exactly records by line item..
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You are awesome !! Thanks for your valuable feedback..this will definitely help many people..
I will just summarize from that post how we can check logs..
Example: You want to test the Consolidation business rule & check what records it is writing..
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Hi David. Thanks for your reply.
I understand, i must have 2 seperate project. One of them is main process, and another is rule process. But, how am i call to business rule project in main process?

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I have created Organization, and assigned Mitigation control, as shown below. I have also created data Source and Business rule. But Business rule assignment is Blank for Controls. So, could you suggest, how can i see the Controls for the Business rule
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I have only imported a simple XSD containing two elements to this project. The other XSD is the one of my polling adapter. I've not created any input/output variables for the overall BPEL process as didn't think I was required to.
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I appreciate your help.
Edited by: user10248308 on 10-Mar-2010 11:49

Hi,
Create a project with BPEL composite
Now drag a business rule
Now create input variable of type ur requestelement
and output variable of type response element
Now in rules designer page take decision table
and then craete a condition (inputelement.input > 1000) and in the rule select true
now create another rule select false
Npw create an action with assertion and select the parameterized box there
now in designer page for first rule assign some value (say 500) and for second rule some value(100)
Now in bpel u have to assign a value to input var of BR
Deploy the process
If u supply 10000 u will get 500
if u supply 100 u will get 100
In the same way u can do by using If-Then
You can use facts and bucketsets according to ur requirement
Regards
PavanKumar.M
PavanKumar.M

Business Rules are not imported in deployment process

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I am deploying a project. The project has 23 business rules.
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