Business Service -- Business System

Hi all,
I've read several tutorials about scenarios in XI and have seen that sometimes business services are used and in some cases they use business systems to implement a communication partner. When do I use business services and when do I use business systems?
Thanks in advance and regards,
Marc

Hi Marc,
You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
Business System is always configured in SLD and you use it when you have all the data you need to connect to the partner system
Michal: correct me if I am wrong.
Regards,
Padmaja

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Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process

Hi,
Can anyone tell me the difference between Business service, Business system and Business process?
Thanks,
Harikumar. S

Hi,
Business system
It is a logical system from a business point of view.
One or more logical systems that belong together from a business point of view is called a group of Business system group. A business system group represents a unit within a company or organization that can be defined according to legal, economic, administrative or geographic factors.
The objects in a business system group are uniquely identified by a uniform numbering system.
Business process
Business procedure within an enterprise that uses resources and can involve activites from a number of different cost centers in a controlling area.
When executing a business process, activities can be utilized for several cost centers of a controlling area.
Business service
Its a third party system.
All these belong to a Business Scenario which is
Description of the flow of business processes according to a business typology. A business scenario represents a template for a business process, which runs within a particular area of a company process. All processes required to completely process the task are listed in chronological order in the scenario. Business scenarios can be described graphically, in either aggregated or detailed form (EPC). Example: Direct sale to industrial recipient
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Diff. between Business service & Business system.

Hi All,
Can anybody tell me what is the actual difference between Buss. service & system ? and in which case I should use either ? How can I differenciate this two ?
Eg. 1. I am using Buss. system BS1 , than what/where this BS1 should be ? and 2. if am using Buss. service BS2 , than what/where this BS2 should be ?
Thanks.
Ramiz.

Hi
Business Syatem:Business Systems
Difference:Difference between Business System and Business Service
Business Service
1) You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
2) Business Service is an Absract Unit with Sender and Receiver Interfaces,In this case you need to explicitly add the message interfaces while doing configuration in ID.
3) It is generally used for NON-SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4) This is not defined as part of SLD and whose technical parameters are not completely known.
5)Business service is used when the message is not addressed to a business system. It is used mostly in B2B scenarios.
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:

Difference Between Business service & Business System

Hi Guys,
I am new to SAP XI Any one pls Explain me with some basics like.
What is the difference Between Business system & Business Service.
Party & Service without party.
Thanks In Advanece
Regards
Kiran.B

Difference in Party & Service without party
A party "with a service" can be equivalent as a company reference. You use a "services without party" when there is no company linked to the service.
>>Party
Is used to represent a business Partner ( who dosen't belong to the Current company's landscape). It is generally defined in a B2B scenario's. So All the systems/services accociated with the Party are referred only as Services.
Generally Service with Party is used for Cross Company processes or B2B integration
Service without party is mainly used for A2A communication.
You can find multiple answers in this thread:
Process Integration (PI) & SOA Middleware
For more:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/7d/6b82cd0d1aef48ab5953524c9cc5b2/content.htm
Service with party e.g:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/how-to%20guides%20-%20rig%20official/xi/how%20to%20set%20up%20an%20xi%20integration%20directory%20scenario%20with%20party%20to%20support%20edi%20partner%20processing.pdf
>>service without party
It is used to represent any service within the landscape and is used in A2A communication.
Please have a look at the following threads..
Regardinng Service Without Party and Party
Re: Party and Service without party
Party & Service without Party
Diff between Party and Service without Party.
look into this doc.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/uuid/b0b355ae-0501-0010-3b83-8f2bb566fa47
Please these two below links for Service Without Party and Aprty:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/87/1d6e3fefa13042e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/fc/c5174082fe1961e10000000a155106/content.htm
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Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference

Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies
involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
Business service or Business system??
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
Business Service (vs) Business System in Integration Directory.
What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?
business system and business service
Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
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Vinod.

Business service and business system

Can someone please tell me what is the difference between business service and business system and in which cases are they used respectively?

Hi,
Business System
Business System have an entry in the SLD and Buiness Service do not.
Business Systems are used when you are sending data to and from an R3 system and can be of ABAP, JAVA and Third Party Types.
Business System is a logical representation of a Technical System.
Business Service :
Business Service is a abstract representation of a System. For instance, www.google.com have a several system working together and IPs of this machines change eventually. When we use a Business Services like google we reference a computer that we don't know the phisical implementation.
Business Service and Business System difference:-
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Difference between Business System and Business Service.
Difference between Business System and Business Service
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Satya

Should i use Business system or Business service for a 3rd party file sys?

Hi Gurus
My requirement is to send a file from 3rd party client system to SAP ECC system.
I want to confugure a file sender CC to pickup the file and send it to ECC system thru proxy.
Now, after going thru the SAP definitions of 3rd party Business system (if the system is present the landscape and technical details are available) and Business service (if system's technical details is not available because it is not present in the landscape. Only the interface details are available, for ex: external webservice), i am not sure which one to use.
What is the use of using a 3rd Business system instead of using business service in my current situation?
In both the cases, i can use a file sender CC and pickup the file from a folder using FTP protocol.
What is the criteria based on which i need to take this decision?
And finally, how are the system name & host name details, which we given during 3rd party technical system definition in SLD useful?
Many Thanks
Chandra

Hi Chandra
Its always preferred to use Business service for communication with systems outside the landscape. As it does not refer to any SLD components and safe to use on internet etc.
What is the use of using a 3rd Business system instead of using business service in my current situation?
If you want to use 3rd party system you need to define party based communication and it acts as a party in production environment. You can also create a Standalone sytem in SLD for your use. Standalone technical system mostly refers to standalone Java applications in landscape.
n both the cases, i can use a file sender CC and pickup the file from a folder using FTP protocol.
What is the criteria based on which i need to take this decision?
If your communication is party based and the 3rd party you refer is a party for ERP then it make sense to use a third party communication and use party name as well.By this i mean business wise. Else its always good to use Business service.
And finally, how are the system name & host name details, which we given during 3rd party technical system definition in SLD useful?
To use this third party system you need to register products on TS else you will not be able to see any Interface etc while configuring in ID. you need to add all details to it in SLD.
Thanks
Gaurav

Diff between Business System and Business Service

What is the Difference b/w Business System and Business System and whne we use them?

Hi,
Business System : is a logical entity assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
Business Service: is an Abstract entity without having assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
for more:
Business System: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Business Service: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/content.htm
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
Business service or Business system??
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
Business Service (vs) Business System in Integration Directory.
What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?
business system and business service
Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
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Aashish Sinha
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Which situation we will use Business Service, and Business System?

Hi SAP XI Professionals ,
Can U plz tell me What is Business Service and Business System? when we need to use Business Service? what is diff between B.System and B. service?
thank You
with regards
jai

HI,
Please see the below links
Differentiate b/w Technical System, Business System and Business Service
Difference between Business System and Business Service.
Difference between Business System and Business Service in ID
Difference between Business System and Business Service
Business system ans service
How can I create a Service in the Business System?
advantage and diff btw Business service n business system
Logical system for business service!!!!!!!!!
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Chilla..

Reg. the Business Service and Business System(Integration Directory).

Hi,
I have a small doubt reg. the Business Service and Business System. When do we need to go for creating a Business Service AND a Business System? I want to know the difference b/w them and the usage of a Business Service as compared to a Business System. Generally I create Business Systems in my configuration scinerioes. Could anybody pl. clarify on this?
Regards,
Murthy

Murthy,
It's been already discussed so many times, Juz give a search option in the thread, you will find a lot.
Anyhow,Please refer the below threads.
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Business service or Business system??
Business Service and Business system
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business system and business service
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raj.

Business Services in BPM

HI,
I have seen that all the examples related to BPM are using Business Services. Why cant we use Business Systems to send/receive messages?
Priya

Priya,
You can use Business Systems and Business Services Interchangeably. it not not mandatory that you use a Business Service with BPM's.
Maybe you have seen beginner blogs and to make things simple they would have used Business Services.
To understand difference between Business Service and Business System search on the XI forums with "Business Service Business System" and you will find many threads on XI. It is a widely discusses topic.
Regards
Bhavesh

How to create Business Services in SLD

Hi Experts,
I'm working on SAP background and wanted to learn SAP-XI.
I'm interesting to work in XI and for this need your support.
I installed XI in my PC and wanted to start learning.
But there are no Business Services (or) Systems configured in the SLD.
I want to start with a simple FILE to FILE scenario.
Could anyone please tell me how to create services in SLD and carry on from there.
Thanks,
Prajwal

Hi,
please look at the bleow links
http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/4013f6bb-7ec3-2b10-62b5-e5be01e498f7
Blogs
/people/srinivas.vanamala2/blog/2007/02/05/step-by-step-guide-xml-file-2-xml-file-scenario-part-i - Step by Step Guide: XML File 2 XML File Scenario: Part I
/people/srinivas.vanamala2/blog/2007/02/05/step-by-step-guide-xml-file-2-xml-file-scenario-part-ii - Step by Step Guide: XML File 2 XML File Scenario: Part 2
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Pradeep A.
Edited by: Pradeep Amisagadda on Apr 16, 2010 9:39 AM

Read the Adapter-Specific Identifiers of a Business Service in mapping step

Hi,
Is it possible to get the values specified in "Adapter-Specific Identifiers" of a Business Service / Business System in the Integration Directory, to be used in the mapping step - and how?
My idea was to access the information via a user definded function in a messages-mapping.
I know the IDOC receiver adapter reads the value for "Logical System" when creating the EDI_DC40 record, but this is done in the Call Adaper step after the mapping step and therefore not available in the message SOAP Header (IDocOutbound not created yet I guess).
Can anyone help?
Thanks
Best Regards
Christian

Hi Christian,
In Java Mapping, we have some constants using which we can achieve this.
Refer the below link:
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e2/e13fcd80fe47768df001a558ed10b6/frameset.htm|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e2/e13fcd80fe47768df001a558ed10b6/frameset.htm]
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Bhanu
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Business Service and Business scenario

Hi,
Does Business Service and Business scenario are alike ?
Rgds,sofia

hi,
Business System : is a logical entity assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
Business Service: is an Abstract entity without having assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
for more:
Business System: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Business Service: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/content.htm
Hope this helps,
Also refer to some previous threads
Business service or Business system??
Re: Business Service <--> Business System
Difference between Business service, Business system and Business process
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
Business Service (vs) Business System in Integration Directory.
What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?
business system and business service
Diff b/w Business service & Business System?
Thanks
Sanjo
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Adding Business service in an configuration scenario

I have created an Integration scenario in IR. And then I have imported the same into the ID.
Now in Integration scenario configurator->Assign Services step, how can I assign the Business Service? (Not a Business System)

Hi Mahesh,
What you can do is:
1. In ID, Tool --> Transfer Integration Scenario form the Integration Reposigtory.
2. In next screen choose, Integration Name and namespace.
3. Then in the next sceen, Give a meaning full name to create the "Configuration Scenario".
4. After comleting step 3, you will get a new screen "Integration Scenario Configurator".
5. Now, in the new screen click on "Assign Services" to add your "Business System" or "Business Service". (Just click on plus sign and then take F4 help to search your business service).
Note:--> To chose different Business Services or System, press the AERO in blue color at the top of the screen just infront of Role.
6. After assigning all your business services or systems, press the Assign button.
7. Communication channels can also be added in the same way under "Cofigure Connections", but there is a trick. You need to create all communication channels before you import your integration scenario to ID.
I hope you will find it very helpful. Still if you have doubts in this let me know.
Regards,
Sarvesh
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