Business System and Technical System ??

Hi Experts,
Please tell, What is the Technical System and Business System. How many Technical and Busniess Systems do we have in XI ?
Early responses are welcome.

Hi,
Business systems:
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within PI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
Web AS ABAP:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of PI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
Web AS Java:
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
Standalone:
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
Third-party:
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
Technical systems:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
Web AS ABAP:
Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Web AS Java:
Web AS Java systems consist of one or more instances and each instance is installed on a separate host. An instance itself consists of cluster nodes that can communicate with each other.
Standalone Java:
Standalone Java technical systems are standalone Java applications that are installed in a computer system from an administration perspective. They can also be installed as an operating system service or as a daemon.
Third-Party:
Third-party technical systems contain third-party software components and products.
Regards,
Prakasu

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Technical Systems are of following types:
Technical systems are application systems that are installed in your system landscape. An example of an application system is a Customer Relationship Management (CRM) server. In the SLD, there are five types of technical systems:
1.)WEBas java,
2.)Standalone JAVA
3.)Third party
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Web AS java belongs to the NetWeaver Comes with both ABAP and Java, Standalone instread comes separate from the netWeaver.
3) Third party technical sytem
It can be any of the technical sytem. let us say if you want to send a file to R/3, here the file reside in your local system. for that you can define your local system as a third party technical system.
All those machines that comes under non sap, belongs to the third party.
4.) Web AS ABAP technical systems, ranging from any SAP system to an APO server or CRM server, are based on the same Basis Component (BC), which includes the ABAP interpreter, ABAP Dictionary, ABAP Workbench, and so on. A dedicated database, which stores most of the data of the BC and the application components, is associated with the system.
Also refer : http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/content.htm
Business systems are logical systems, which function as senders or receivers within XI. Business systems can be SAP systems or third-party systems.
Depending on the associated technical system, the following types of business systems are defined in the SLD:
· Web AS ABAP
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP.
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS ABAP, can play the role either of an application system or an integration server. An integration server is the central component of XI, which provides a framework for the exchange of information among various internal and external entities of a company. The integration server facilitates the interaction between the different operating systems and applications across internal and external networks.
· Web AS Java
A business system, which is associated with a Web AS Java.
· Standalone
A business system, which is associated with a standalone Java application.
· Third-party
A business system, which is associated with a third-party technical system.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/24/8fa93e08503614e10000000a114084/frameset.htm

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SLD on the Integration tab of the business system, there appears to be no link to the technical system assigned to that business system. But if you go to the technical system, you do see the correct business system.
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Hi KRUSHI,
If you are using an SLD of Version 700 with Support Package Level 12, it is a display bug of SAP XI. Import patch 01 of the software component LIFECYCLE MGMT TOOLS 7.00 with Support Package Level 12, it will be solved.
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Setting the Global Parameter for IDOC Interface
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Logical Systems, Assign Client to Logical systems
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Tcode: SM 59
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Step 5: The PORT definition
TCode: WE 21
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Executing the Process:
TCode: BD 10
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TCode: BD 61
Path: From the ALE Customizing in IMG,choose Modeling and Implemantation Business
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TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
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Process, MAster Data distribution,Distribution using Object Classes, Maintain Class Types
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TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
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TCode: CL 01 (it is zero)
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
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TCode: BD 68
TCode: O1 CL(it is CAPITAL O)
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TCode: BD 59
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Staus Record:
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TCode: We 81
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go through the following site to have screen shots.
http://www.****************/Tutorials/ALE/ALEMainPage.htm
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