Business Systems and Related Integration Servers

Each Standalone Business System has a corresponding Related Integration Server.
Suppose I am Developing a scenario for a Business System in the development environment, I have a related XI Development Integration Server (call it XD1) then I want to transport the changes to the test environment. Since this business system is defined to only point to XD1 as the integration server, in the test environment I want it to use the Test Integration Server (call it XD2). But the Business SYstem is pointing to XD1 only!
What I am saying is: Given that one Business System only points to one Integration Server, do I need one Business System for Development (call it BS_DEV), and one for test (call it BS_TST)?
Kind Regards,
Tony.

If you have only 1 sld and you want to move the XI objects from development(XIDEV) to Quality(XIQA).
you will have to define the 2 business system groups and the related transport targets in the SLD..
1st transport group XIDEV --
BS_DEV will have XIDEV as the integration server.
2nd transport group XIQA --
BS_QA will have XIQA as the integration server.
So you will have to name the business system differently as DEV and QA
Some references
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ef/a21e3e0987760be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
/people/sap.india5/blog/2005/11/03/xi-software-logistics-1-sld-preparation
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Deleting a Business System and related/assigned objects

I am PI newbie (as will soon become apparent) so first I apologise for my “simple” question.
In PI one business system has been replaced with another e.g. BS_US_1CLNT is replaced by BS_US_2CLNT. I want to delete the first business system and all its related components and links without breaking anything, preferably.
What is the best way to do this? I assume I go to the interface builder, select Object View, then select BS_US_1CLNT and open the object list. The object list consists only of communication channels so I can right click on each CC and delete? But what if these have been assigned already to Configuration Scenarios? Are there other objects/assignments I should take care of or check? Is this the right way to go about this i.e. simply right click on each CC under the BS_US_1CLNT tree and then delete?
Please help me with the steps I should take to proceed with this, and any objects etc. I should take care of.
All help greatly appreciated.
Wish you all a nice day further.

Hi Glen,
It is not easy just to delete all the objects pointing to a certain business system, but the way to delete would be communication channels first and then the business system would be last.
When deleting a communication channel, you can see where it is used by right-clicking on it and then select the Where-Used List option. It will list the objects that uses that communication channel, namely receiver agreement (for receiver) and sender agreement (for sender).
Once you have re-created the receiver/sender agreements to use the new business system, it should now be safe to delete the channels and the sender/receiver agreements. You should also do the same with the business system, right-click it and select Where-Used List. You also need to re-create the objects that uses that business system e.g receiver det, interface det, receiver agreement (if not yet deleted), sender agreement.
Do not worry about being a newbie, everyone of us started as one
Hope this helps,
Mark

Regarding Business System and Business Service

Hello,
What is the difference between the Business system and Business service. When do we go for what? Which system we will take as business system or business service means either sender system or reciever system.
Give me with simple example... please
Thank you

hi,
What is the difference between the Business system and Business service.?
Business System is a logical representation of a Technical System.
Business System: BS is a conceptual representation of a logical system, such as a specific client on a SAP server or a 3rd party payroll application.
For defining Business Systems, the four important pieces of data are:
u2022Business System Name (must be unique in the landscape)
u2022Associated Technical system name, and if the Business System will be used with IDoc interfaces, a Logical System Name
u2022The Software Products (and associated SWCVu2019s) that are used by the Business System. The products are brought through from the Technical System definition; but for a particular Technical System, not all products will necessarily be associated with a particular Business System.
u2022The Related Integration Server.
A Business System addresses a business system as a sender or receiver of messages. Unlike an abstract service, a business system represents a specific (application) system in the system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
Business Service is a abstract representation of a System. For instance, www.google.com have a several system working together and IPs of this machines change eventually. When we use a Business Services like google we reference a computer that we don't know the phisical implementation
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companiesinvolved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used whenconfiguring cross-company processes.
Which system we will take as business system or business service means either sender system or reciever system
Business system and business service can either be a sender or receiver...
business systesm is an application system which is a real system..business service is an abstract entity...we send requests using webservices for them....
thanks,
vijaya

Business Systems and Business Service - does any difference

Hi Experts,
Could any one please guide me what is the difference between
Business Systems
and
Business Service.
Which situations we use Business Systems / Business Service.
Does it have any performance issues?
Why we are not configuring Business service in SLD?
Cheers Experts!!
Sunil

Hi Sunil,
Business System: Address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system
(service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software
component versions of the business system. The business system services are used when
configuring internal company processes.
Business Systems are Logical Senders or Receivers that exchange messages by using the Integration
Server and that are entered in the System Landscape Directory.
The Business Systems in the System Landscape Directory relate to a system landscape.
The Business Systems of business partners are therefore not entered in the System Landscape
Directory. To be able to address such business partners logically, use communication components in
the Integration Directory. A business system is a way of specifying a communication component in the
Integration Directory more precisely (business system component).
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies
involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces. The business services are used when
configuring cross-company processes.
In the PCK, the Service is of type Business Service. It represents an abstract, addressable unit.
Business services are used in cross-company processes, for example, if the parties involved have only
published their interfaces and not their system landscape, or it is only partly known.
Using a Business Service,we can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved
and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
It is useful to use Business Services when configuring cross-company processes. Usually, the
interface descriptions of the business partners involved are made publicly available.
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Regards,
Vinod.

Diffebetween Business system and Logical system...

what is the difference between Business system and Logical system...

Hi
Business system is a logical layer needed for configuration in integration directory. On the other site technical system is physical representation of your technical landscape. In case of SAP technical systems you can have more than one business system relation. In that situation there is relation one client to one business system.
If your technical system changes, then you definitely need to point this new technical system to the existing Business system which has been used to do all the Configurations in the Integration Builder.
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Business System and Client

Hi
I checked many treads and still I couldn't get a satisfactory explanation to the difference between Business System and Client. I read in help.sap site that multiple business systems can be assigned to a single technical system and also each numbered client of an SAP system is a Unique Business System ? So are client and business system one ? If so why use it interchangably ? And if many business systems can be assigned to the technical system how do we specify a related Integration Server ? As I understand only one Business System can be assigned Integration server. So if we assign many business systems to one technical system then how can we have related Integration server for all ? I couldn't get a satisfactory explanation to this doubt in any thread in this forum
Midhun

>>each numbered client of an SAP system is a Unique Business System ?
It could be. But it is not necessary that each client of SAP system is communicating with PI. If it is then there will be one Business System for each client.
>> So are client and business system one ?
No. Client is more substantial category in SAP system. Business system just defines the logical name to these clients if they communicate with PI.
>> If so why use it interchangably ?
Actually they can't be used interchangably always. The only relation is that for each client of SAP system, there could be only one Business system.
>>And if many business systems can be assigned to the technical system how do we specify a related Integration Server ?
For related Integration Server name, you need to select the PI Business system name which would communicate with your business system. For a single SLD scenario you will see PI Dev, Q and Prod business systems.
>> As I understand only one Business System can be assigned Integration server.
Correct. Its a PI Business system.
>> So if we assign many business systems to one technical system then how can we have related Integration server for all ?
For all Business systems of 1 technical system, you need to select the same PI Business system name.
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Prateek

SLD: recreate deleted Business System of type Integration Server

Hi,
accidentally i deletet the business system of type "Integration Server" in the SLD. And i can't recreate it. It always says:
"Integration Server already defined There is already an integration server defined for the selected technical system. Please select role Application System."
Any ideas to create such a business system?
The old one isn't there in the list, after i deleted it.
regards,
ms

Hi,
If you change/delete the host name of the Integration Server after the installation in either the SLD or the exchange profile, you must adjust it accordingly in the exchange profile or the SLD, respectively
Maintaining a Business System for the Integration Server
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/9b/da0f41026df223e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
Regarding Integration server in Business System
Regarding Integration server in Business System
Refer editing the Business System
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/59/2cb3a3c93a4c7086500b8345143418/frameset.htm
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Swarup
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Connect one Business system with two Integration Server

Hello,
Can we able to connect one Business System with two Integration Server?
I have one Business system (ECC 6.0 with the client 900) and it is already connected with PI 7.0 system.Can I able to connect the same sytem (with same client) with PI7.1?
I want to do the HTTP Connection for ABAP Proxy for this two XI system with one business Sytem ?
Is this possible ?Is there any work around solution there?
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Hello ,
This document describes about connecting with Two PI7.1 system using Application Server 7.1 and Application Server 7.0 SP14 .
I want to connect same ECC system via abap proxy with two different PI system .One is PI7.0 and another one is PI7.1 system.
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Problem by Maintaining a Business System for the Integration Server

Hi to all,
I have the following problem. I tried to change some Business systems configuration in SLD but accidentally deleted defined Business System for our Integration Server. After that I tried to create that business system again but I have the following error:
Integration Server already defined. There is already an integration server defined for the selected technical system. Please select role Application System.
Since than Im receiving the following error message when I try to refresh my adapter engine cache:
com.sap.aii.ib.server.abapcache.CacheRefreshException: Unable to find an associated SLD element
Do you know how can I define the Business System again currently I can't see it in SLD Business systems?
Ive also checked the IS URL (TR: SXMB_MONI) and it seems that its ok.
Regards
Naycho

Hi Naycho,
i think you have to clean up some sld rubbish
Go to SLD / Administration / Content Maintenance. Choose left side "all classes" or "landscape description" and right side "business system". Delete all entries you find for your business system, after that try to recreate it.
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Whats the actual difference between Business system and Business service

whats the actual difference between Business system and Business service

Business System
1) Business system is a logical system, and there is an importance on physical existence of the system.
2) Also SLD entry is required.
3)It is generally used for SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4)This is defined as part of the SLD and is a physical system whose parameters are well defined.
5(Business systems refers to the physical systems, for instance the R/3 system. You define the business systems in the SLD
Business Service
1) You use a Business Service, when you do not have the System details of the the partner system to which you want to communicate. i.e. you have not configured the partner system in SLD.
2) Business Service is an Absract Unit with Sender and Receiver Interfaces,In this case you need to explicitly add the message interfaces while doing configuration in ID.
3) It is generally used for NON-SAP applications, this is just a general prinicple followed but not mandatory.
4) This is not defined as part of SLD and whose technical parameters are not completely known.
5)Business service is used when the message is not addressed to a business system. It is used mostly in B2B scenarios.
Also go through these links and threads...
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/14/80243b4a66ae0ce10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Business service or Business system??
Business Service vs Business System in Integration Directory.
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What is the Difference b/w Business System and Business System and whne we use them?

Hi,
Business System : is a logical entity assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
Business Service: is an Abstract entity without having assigned to a Technical System in a SLD
for more:
Business System: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/42/c817d9d2296bb2e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Business Service: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/c7/301640033ae569e10000000a155106/content.htm
Also,There is already lot of thread regarding the same discussion, please see it below.
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Registration of Business system for the Integration Engine Java in the SLD issue

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We have completed the installation of PI-AEX 7.4 SR1 then we ran the below wizards successfully.
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- Configuration Wizard: PI Self Test for AEX
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Check the registration of a business system for the Integration Engine Java in the SLD:
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Configuration Wizard: PI Self Test for AEX
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One business system and two FTP server locations

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We have one business system and two FTP server locations related to it. We have to send two different messages to this business system.
It has to be send to both the ftp server locations.
How do we configure the receiver determination and receiver agreements ?
Do we need two receiver Business systems for this?
How do we configure the receiver agreements especially?
Urgent
Regards,
John

hi
1) you must create 2 CC, each one to one FTP server.
2) how you send diferent message to each FTP yo only have to define 2 Reveiver determination, and two Interface Determination.
3)one sender Agreement
4)2 receiver agreement.
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Rodrigo

Parties, Business Systems and Business Services

Hi guys,
I've read a lot about items in subject, but have some doubts about applying them to my scenario. I have to integrate SAP system and web service.
As far as I understand concepts, this is B2B communication, so I have to use parties. To represent SAP system I use Business System, as it's described ins SLD, and for Web service I use Business Service... just as we use business services for web services
--- Am I right here? Will it work ok in reciever determination, agreement?
Thank you.

Hi,
You are doing the usage of business systems and services in proper way.
The scenario will difinately work with combination of business system and service.
It will be fine for all other configurations such as Receiver Determination, Sender/receiver agreements and interface determination etc.
Please see below the importance of Parties, Business Systems and Business Services
A communication party
A communication party (party for short) represents a larger unit, which is involved in a collaborative process. Using a communication party, you generally address a company within a cross-company process.
You can assign a communication party one or more services to address it as the sender or receiver of messages.
A business system
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
A business service
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
For example, you can define RosettaNet Partner Interface Processes (PIPs) as business services.
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Swarup

What is the difference between Business System and Business Service?

Hi
Please tell me what is the difference between Business System and Business Service...? In real time at what situation we will use Business System and in what situations we will use Business Service..? Please help me
Best Regards
Ravi Shankar B

HI,
Business system:
If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
A business system is an actual application system in a system landscape. A business system (service) comprises information about the inbound and outbound interfaces and the software component versions of the business system.
You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
Business Service:
If you want to address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
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