Buying an X230: Order the RAM upgrade or buy later?

Hello,
I'm about to order an X230. In my experience, it's usually best to install the maximum RAM, so I'd like to upgrade to 16GB. Lenovo charges $340 for 16 GB DDR3 - 1600MHz (2 DIMM).
Can anyone advise on whether it's cheaper / feasible to order the RAM elsewhere? From the posts here on upgrading RAM on the x230, I do see that some people have found it confusing to identify compatible RAM for their machines.
I'd appreciate any advice.
Thanks!

I ordered my x230 with the i7 and minimum RAM from Lenovo. I will upgrade, like you, to 16 when I can. I have used Kingston in the past. I plan on just matching each 8 GB DIMM.

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