Buying decision

I'm looking at both these Imacs. Both close in price. One is newer, the other says it's over 350$ savings. Which is the better deal though?
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FE088LL/A/refurbished-27-inch-imac-32ghz-quad- core-intel-core-i5
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD096LL/A
I'd appreciate any input. Not super computer saavy.
Thanks!

With the exception of the video card and the year they were released they're the same. I would buy the 2013 model because of the better video card http://store.apple.com/us/product/FE088LL/A/refurbished-27-inch-imac-32ghz-quad- core-intel-core-i5

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When are the faster i7 quad core (2.7ghz) chips going to ship in the MacBook Pros, Intel announced them over a month ago. Trying to make a buying decision.

When are the faster i7 quad core (2.7ghz) chips going to ship in the MacBook Pros, Intel announced them over a month ago. Trying to make a buying decision.

We can't speculate, when it appears it will appear.
Are these mobile processors? Because that will answer your question right there.

Missing technical information on X200/X200s/X300 for final buying decision

Hello Thinkpad community,
I am planning to buy a thinkpad x200s, x200, x300 or x301 to replace my z61m.
Since I am missing some detailed technical information, it is hard for me to make this decision. Please help me to fill the gaps.
X200/X200s
My favourite is the x200s, since the main requirement is ultra mobility. To make it usable also on the outside of buildings, I am interested how bright is the display
1.) Candela / nit of X200s?
2.) Candela / nit of X200?
However, I want to use the notebook when I am at home as desktop system with a dual Monitor setup, too.
3.) Does the x200 / x200s with extension bay support dual monitor setup (one via vga, one via digital output)?
4.) If dual monitor setup is supported, what is the maximal supported resolution for two monitors?
5.) Is dual monitor setup supported with linux?
X300/X3001
Just in case the display / resolution of the X200s is two small (I will have to check it in real in a lenovo partner store if it will be available in Germany) for me I will switch to X300 / X301.
5.) Candela / nit of X300?
6.) Candela / nit of X301?
Dual Monitor support of X300 series?
7.) AFAIK, X300 supports only dual monitor in combination with this usb-docking station with NO linux support (window drivers needed). Is that true?
8.) AFIAK, the X3001 has dual display out on the notebook itself (vga and display port). Can thes ports be used in parallel fo dual monitor set up?
9.) If dual monitor setup is supported with X301 is it working in combination with linux?
64-Bit Operation System support
If I wouldn't have stumbled across this tread (http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=X_Series_Thinkpads&thread.id=1485&view=by_date_a... I wouldn't dare to ask, thought it would be impossible because of the 32-Bit processors. Does the X200 / x200s support 64-Bit Operation systems? Especially Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition or SUSE / REDHAT X86_64 64BIT? Not that I would need it for office usage, however some servers (local development & testing on ultra mobile thinkpads rocks ) require this.
Thanks to your feedback! I am really eager to come to a decision, place the order and have a terrific ultra-mobile, but still desktop friendly notebook
BTW: Is there any technical document listing some or all of the information which I am missing? If yes, I cannot find it on the lenovo web site...
Thanks & Regards!
Kris
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welcome to the forum!
here are a few links which may help your research. the last link will give you specs on the various display panels among many other specs as well.
http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/tech_library.html
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/merchandising/US/PDFs/x200_datasheet.pdf
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/merchandising/US/PDFs/x300_USEN_00.pdf
http://shop.lenovo.com/ISS_Static/merchandising/US/PDFs/X301_Datasheet.pdf
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pcinstitute/psref/tabook.pdf
64-bit OSes are supported on all X300/X301 and X200/X200s models. server 2003 and 2008 are not officially supported but will run on the above equipment. there's a chance that not all drivers can be found however, especially for 2003. 2008 is much easier to implement since it registers with most drivers and apps as simply being vista with SP1 (since vista shares 2008's kernel).
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Help me in this buying decision- Muvo tx fm or micro n

Both players are the in same price category for 52. Im not interested in the tx equalizer or the n200 line in.all my music will come from 2 gs of ripped cds in windows explorer.this decision is hard since both players have armband and case and both are small enough to suit my needs.
my thinking is that if usb connector fails on tx fm or breaks the player will need a repair. If same happens on n200 with usb wire i can just buy another. The reliability factor on the tx seemed a bit shakey in older feedback on amazon and n200 has not got that much feedback to go with. I would love to hear from users of these players as to what choice they made and why. Ive never seen these players and wondered if the lcd screen on the tx was bigger than the micro which could be a deciding factor for someone with reading glasses? Thanks for your help matt

I think the screen size is pretty much the same on both players.
Both players may need a firmware update every so often (that means when it stops working).
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Aperture 3: A quick benchmark for buying decision

I'm in the unlucky situation, that my workhorse machine for Aperture is still a well equipment PowerMac Quad G5. I can't use Aperture 3 on this machine as Aperture 3 is Intel only.
I've read several posts on boards discussing Aperture 3, that Apple did right in abandoning PPC code, because the G5 would simply no be powerful enough to run Aperture 3 efficiently.
So I did a small test. Installed the Aperture 3 trial on my MacBook Pro, which is officially supported by Aperture 3 and exported 34 heavy edited RAW pictures to 50% downscaled JPEGs.
Here is the result:
Quad G5 / Aperture 2: 2:14 Min
MacBook Pro 2.4 GHz early 2008 / Aperture 3: 3:14 Min
So what is the conclusion?
1.) A Quad G5 would have been more than powerful enough to run Aperture 3, if Apple had made it an universal app. Sadly they decided against and I have to live with this decision.
2.) Using the MacBook Pro with Aperture 3 is no option for me and not only due to limited display size and hard disc size/speed. According to this benchmark, it would be a serious performance downgrade in compare with the G5 Quad/Aperture 2 combo I use now.
3.) A 2,66 GHz Quad-Core Mac Pro (the cheapest Quad G5 successor) would run Aperture 3 and would cut the time for my benchmark probably by halve (given 4 cores vs. 2 on the MBP). That would mean probably 1:40 Min to complete the test. Yeah, faster than 2:14 Min. but frankly not that much.
If I spend a lot of money to replace my Quad G5 with an Aperture 3 compatible desktop Mac, I expect it to be noticeable faster than my current machine - or I stick with the G5 and Aperture 2 for another year.
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Is there someone with a fast Mac Pro and/or an i5 or i7 iMac and has still access to an Quad G5 or a 2.4 GHz MacBook Pro, who could make a similar benchmark test to compare with?
Peter

It shouldn't be a surprise that, years after switching to Intel, that Apple now develops software for Intel machines. It doesn't develop software for my old Apple //e with a 6502 chip, either. I've moved on and so has Apple.
William, no offense against your reply, but people often speak, as if the PPC in the Mac platform had been superseded by Intel CPUs almost a decade ago, and so it has to be expected now, that this architecture isn't supported any more.
The truth is:
- It wasn't before August 2006, that the crown for the "fastest Mac ever" went from the Quad G5 to the Mac Pro.
- And it wasn't before March 2007 with the release of Adobe CS3, that the Quad G5 lost the crown as the fastest machine for running Photoshop, InDesign etc.
So until March 2007 the Quad G5 was the best performing machine for creative professionals.
In August 2009 Apple dropped PPC support with the release of Snow Leopard and as we know now for all future Pro apps as well. No surprise, other major software vendors like Adobe quickly follow Apple's route and abandon PPC support too, as we see in the Lightroom 3 beta and the next version of CS.
So it is just about 2 years for the Quad G5 to move from the best performing machine for creative professionals to a machine being totally unusable to run current software for creative professionals.
While I fully understand, that Apple doesn't want to waste resources with coding for a plattform, they don't sell any more, the often praised longevity of Mac system in compare to windows system is really a joke in this special case. My 6 years old windows box is better supported by current software than my now 5 years old Quad G5.
Ok, let's stop here with the discussion (whining ) about the drop of PPC support. Apple's decision is made and it is final, so it is time to move forward.
My lesson from this story: I'll never buy legacy hardware from Apple again. They are just "too innovative" to make a good use of legacy hardware over its usual lifetime.
Peter

Need help fast with a buying decision - Leadtek 6800 GT

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I'm a new Mac user. Two things happened in the past few months that is turning me off to Apple, but I'm still ambivalent.
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I understand Apple won't cover screens, but I'm pretty angry because the iBook is advertised as being "built to make an impact and take an impact" yet the screen broke so easily. So I did the best I could with what I had, took the loss, and sold it for parts.
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Hi, Welcome to Apple Discussions!
First thing: 2-3 years ago I switched to Apple and now I have to admit that was one of the most beautiful and clever things I ever done in my life.
I think you were just unlucky with Apple products but I suggest you to buy a Mac because they produce great computers and Mac OS is the best OS ever! I know that you could be not sure to buy another Mac but remember that in a PC you'll find less system performances and more difficulties and troubles (settings, spyware...). If you want to buy a notebook I suggest you the iBook because it's a complete computer and you can use it for common tasks and some pro applications. If you're looking for a desktop, take a look at the new iMac... I think it's the best buy (specs - $).
Post another message if you need more help, bye!

Help with a buying decision?

Hello everyone. My wife is considering buying a Mac laptop for her architecture grad school work. She will be using Adobe Creative Suite (especially Photoshop and Indesign). I've customized a 14" iBook on the Apple store that matches a customized 15" Powerbook in almost every detail (1.42 Ghz to 1.5Ghz G4, 1gig DDR333, 100GB HD, 8x Superdrive, OS 10.4, Airport Extreme) for about $800 less than the Powerbook!
So far this is a no brainer, but the iBook only offers a 32Mb video card, while the Powerbook comes with a 64Mb card as standard. Given the graphics programs my wife will be working with, what impact would the lesser graphics card have on her productivity, if any? I'm not sure how much these programs rely on VRAM. She's not a gamer (I wish), so that won't be an issue. Thanks for any advice!

Hi, Welcome to Apple Discussions!
First thing: 2-3 years ago I switched to Apple and now I have to admit that was one of the most beautiful and clever things I ever done in my life.
I think you were just unlucky with Apple products but I suggest you to buy a Mac because they produce great computers and Mac OS is the best OS ever! I know that you could be not sure to buy another Mac but remember that in a PC you'll find less system performances and more difficulties and troubles (settings, spyware...). If you want to buy a notebook I suggest you the iBook because it's a complete computer and you can use it for common tasks and some pro applications. If you're looking for a desktop, take a look at the new iMac... I think it's the best buy (specs - $).
Post another message if you need more help, bye!

Help with Laptop buying decision

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> Obviously lotsa ram, quad core, hdd space (or multiple hd)...
Yes.
> ... nice GPU
card,
No.
As far as After Effects is concerned, a "nice GPU card" is a waste of money. Having basic OpenGL 2.0 capabilities is all that you need (actually, you don't even _need_ that), and nothing above the baseline is at all important.
Spend the money on RAM, CPU, and hard disk resources.
And be sure to get a 64-bit operating system.

Buying Decision - Which 3.6GHz i5 iMac upgrade?

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Assuming you only had a enough budget to cover for one other upgrade, which one would you choose?
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I appreciate all your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance.

Thanks for your insight and recommendation, macbig. You're definitely right. Hooking up a larger hard drive in the future would basically negate any storage issues.
You mentioned upgrading the graphics card is a costly proposition, is this "surgery" even possible? Isn't the graphics card soldered to the logic board; hence, making the upgrade nearly impossible to perform?
Based on your recommendation alone, I would say I am now more inclined to get the graphics card upgrade. With the 1TB graphics card, would there be any real or perceived performance gain with the aforementioned applications I'll be using the iMac for? Or would the processor upgrade (which I'm definitely gonna get) be more than sufficient to address performance? I realize performance is subjective. I just need a personal preference/experience from people who use the same applications as I do.
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I'll be using this MBP primarily for word processing and general Internet use. So should processing speed (ghz) or hard drive speed (rpm) be the priority? (I assume faster hard drive cuts down on battery life?)
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If your main use for the machine is word processing and internet, I would go with the 2.53 ghz model and 4 GB of memory. The 2.8 ghz is the top end model and geared more towards the photographer or gamer crowd. I saw deals on macmall that would save you a couple hundred dollars over most retailers and suggest you check them out. Your needs do not call for the faster processor or hard drives unless you just want to throw money at it.

How will adding a laptop to our dept. affect my CC buying decision?

We have a two-person department and want to upgrade from CS6 to CC. We are also adding a Macbook Pro to our group which will be shared for remote access. Will we need to purchase a third CC license for the laptop or will our individual workstation licenses cover it?

Cloud License allows ONLY 2 activations http://www.adobe.com/legal/licenses-terms.html
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Have I made a mistake buying an Core Duo?

Hi
Am I doomed, Have I commited a crime, Am I going to be dissapointed? I am getting worried here, as I sit glaring onto the screen of my new Intel Core Duo 20", and staring even harder at the lovely black box of my Motion 2 Software which I can't do anything with!!
Hope some of you have some thoughts here, I am a new mac user. Previously I have been a keen amateur in video work, using premiere on a windows pc.
I have decicded to make the leap to doing video on a mac and to learn FCS
I have just bought my first Mac, (a intel core duo 20" standard set up). I also (a week before getting the iMac) bought Motion 2. I didn't have the choice to buy a powermac, as they are way over my budget, especially as I would have to buy a separate screen.
So my budget conscious plan was to buy Motion 2 (which i have), Buy a mac (which I have), order final cut universal upgrade, (which means I end up getting FC Studio for £300 instead of £900) and whilst waiting for studio to ship I could begin learning motion.
Alas, as I have now found out, Motion doesn't run on my intel iMac (it doesn't even start up). Through this forum I have now found out why - although to be honest the tech support guy at apple i rang had no idea why it wouldn't , and to be quite frank he should of know know shouldn't he, as he works for mac for petes sake!!
Anyway, heres my question. I am now worried that even when I get my universal copy of FCS I am going to be dissapointed.
Is my intel iMac going to struggle to run the FCS apps? (especially motion)?
Is the graphics card (an ATI X1600) up to the job? (i had the basic 128mb)?
What kind of ram am I going to need? - the max I can have is 2gb?
It may be the case I am stuck with what I have got, as its now a week old, and don't think I am allowed to return, just because I may have made the wrong buying decision.
I really regret not having the 256mb video card version, and I should have researched more. But I bought on impulse from PC World, and the bloke didn't have a clue, and he never even mentioned the other option.
I am now wondering if I shoud have just bought a refurbed iMac (not intel) or even a second hand powermac.
Anyway - some opinions from you guys on whether I have a system that is going to be able to run Motion and FCS Universal, or whether I am in for a rocky road ahead would be good at this stage?
Advance thanks
PopSynic

Welcome to the family. While we sympathize with your situation, we're seeing a lot of it these days. We're mostly sorry you Intel buyers didn't spend more time doing better research before spending all your money.
Buy the universal update package, you have no choice, but look carefully at the specs on the iMac's graphics card and compare them against the requirements for Motion. I don't use an iMac but the card may not be up to the task and I don't know if it can upgraded; you may never be happy with the iMac's performance.
If Motion is crucial to your plans to make a living in video and motion graphics creation, you have no choice but to buy a properly equipped machine. Think of it like gaming on a PC. If you want to compete in the coolest games, you buy a PC that is hacked for gaming. If you want to do Motion, you must buy a Macintosh made for the task.
The first level of Apple support is twits reading scripts. All they know is how to tell PC users to install iTunes. Do not expect to get any useful advice from Apple on the phone unless you are buying the pro support. Stop here first. we're free and we care.
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Should I or shouldn't I? buy I mean

Ok I've got a imac from 2007 which came with Leopard on it, was new to Mac, and love it. Havent used everything on it yet! I bought iLife 09 as it came with iLife 08, and I liked the look of the new features of iLife 09;faces/places etc
My iMac is "only" a 2Ghz Core 2 Duo, and I have 2Gb RAM in.
I know Snow Leopard is only around £20 (UK pounds) now, but am wondering if I should just wait till Summer/June now to see if a newer OS comes out, or just go for Snow Leopard, or even not even bother.
Leopard works fine for me, as I say still learning Mac, cant see anything that Snow really adds, but is it worth it? the 7-10Gb space is irrelevant to me, as I store media stuff on external disk.
So now a few of the bugs have been ironed out, should I go for it or not?
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the loc-man:
I aim to do a complete reinstall, clean install of it.
I concur with baltwo. That is unnecessary and a complete waste of time and money. Buy the cheaper upgrade disk and that will work fine.
I believe all I need to do is save the iTunes folder, copy it to my NAS for storage, install Snow, then copy the iTunes folder back onto the Mac HDD?
Use this upgrade option and everything will be in place, and you will not know the difference except for the quicker startups and faster OS. You won't have to move anything around. There is also less room for error this way.
to be honest when you say about saving HDD space 7-8Gb in the "olden" days would sound great, but really its just a few iTunes movie worth now, so this is not a buying decision for me.
Some folk have reported gaining back as much as 20 GB, which is not by any means paltry. However, even 8 GB could spell the difference between a too full drive with serious consequences and having a nice cushion. You need to maintain a minimum of 15% of the total capacity of your HDD as contiguous free disk space to avoid directory currupton which can result from not having sufficient free space to grow the Extents Overflow File. The additional space also improves the performance of your computer by giving you disk space for swap files.
Please do post back if you have further questions or comments.
cornelius

Wanting to buy Iphone

To Whom It May Concern,
I want to buy a phone/pda that is for my business activities...is Iphone's To Do List and Calender function really good? easy to use? can anyone share your experience with me...so I can really make sure I can buy Iphone

There are a lot of things to consider when buying a phone for business as you have said.
1) Will the email work. In some corporate/company environments, with their own in-house servers there may be a problem.
2) The calendar is pretty good. Has a lot of good features and it interfaces through outlook for me.
3) If you have a contact list that has a lot of contacts, and you need to do searches, there is no contact list search.
4) SMS is good. If you are looking for IM it is not that.
5) MAP, to get somewhere, for me has been great.
6) I could tell you about the iPod, camera, etc. features but since you said you are looking for this phone to assist you in business, I do not consider those items as business related. They also work well.
This is a new product and if you want to pioneer with the rest of us, it is a good product that still needs some maturing. I use it for my business and my personal needs.
I would suggest that before buying the iPhone, I would download the iPhone manual that is listed in the lead threads into this Forum. It will give you some idea of the features before you go to the Apple or AT&T Store to buy. You then could have some questions in place to ask the Apple Genius Corps.
The manual is pretty good and if you have any background in 'smart' and 'not so smart' cell phones it is not hard to comprehend.
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