Buying Thinkpad without Operating System
Do you know when will be possible to buy a Thinkpad with NO operating System installed and
NO third party software?
Do we have a chance?
As for me I do not see the point of buying (or selling for that matter) a computer wihtout OS. If you want to install other OS, such as Ubuntu or other variety of GNU Linux and make your computer crippled (with poor power managment, many nonfunctioning buttons, less choice of software etc.) then you are free to do it. I cannot see how the existence of a preinstalled OS can do any harm. I would agree that it is sad that Lenovo does not offer ThinkPad with preinstalled SUSE. However, if they made such a decision it is obvious that the reason was that nobody cared to buy those machines. So customers have passed their vote after all.
Just for the record. I am by no means a fan of Microsoft (it is rather opposite) but so far I cannot deny that there is no viable alternative to windows on PCs today as linux is too far from being redy to replace it (I know, I have checked the state of the things in linux world quite recently and must say that things still look very unprofessional and crippled in comparison to either OSX or Vista.
ThinkPad T500 2242-CTO P8600 / 4GB RAM / WSXGA+ / HDD Fujitsu 7200rpm 1TB / 6 Cell Sony / Windows 8 Pro 64-bit
ThinkPad Tablet 2
ThinkPad X61s 7669-3KG Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit
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I purchased a refurbished Macbook pro without operating system.
This is my first Mac, but have heard they are very simple and much more intuitive than Windows,
I've had the machine for three weeks now, and it's been nothing more than a paperweight!!
A friend said he had his old install disks, which happened to be exactly what google said I needed to start out as: version 10.5
When I boot holding the OPTION button down, I get two options. Windows (with an up arrow below it) and Mac OS x Install Disk 1 (with an up arrow below it).
I can move the mouse, and move the cursor with my arrow keys, to select either Windows or Mac OS install. The problem is - if I select the Mac OS install,
the disk starts up (I can hear it), but it never does anything. I can no longer move the mouse / cursor after selecting it. It will stay for hours like this with no progress.
On the disk itself, it says MAC OS version 10.5. This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not be sold separately.
It also says: to start up from Mac OS x, hold down the C key as the computer starts up. When I do that, all I get is a gray screen.
I've also tried the shift key when starting up (supposed to be safe mode?) but same thing - gray screen.
The only way to even eject the disk (scared the heck out of me) is to start up holding the OPTION button.
If I select WINDOWS after using the OPTION button, I get an IBM message:
IBM Secure Data Disposal Utility 2.0
IBM Remote Deployment Manager 4.1
Date and time of execution...7/24/12 18:01:22
Command executed................A:\SCRUB3.EXE /d=all /l=2
Return code...............................0
I assume this is what they used to wipe the hard drive before sending...
Obviously I am Apple-illiterate, but I've spent days going through chat rooms, etc. and came up with nothing.
At this point, I suspect either:
1) The machine is junk and needs to be returned OR
2) The disks are bad and/or can't be used for a clean install
I don't want to waste money buying a brand new OS, only to find out that the machine is bad.
Any thoughts??That model originally shipped with a special Intel version of Tiger. You should be able to install any retail version of Leopard or later. I would recommend you start with Snow Leopard. Snow Leopard requires a minimum of 1 GB of RAM. If you have 2 GBs of RAM then you could install Lion or Mountain Lion.
You can purchase Snow Leopard from Apple's online store's telesales agents.[1-800-MY-APPLE (1-800-692-7753) or Customer Service and Sales Support at 1-800-676-2775.] Ask for a Sales Representative.
Third-party sources for Snow Leopard are:
Snow Leopard from Amazon.com
Snow Leopard from eBay
After you install Snow Leopard you will have to download and install the Mac OS X 10.6.8 Update Combo v1.1 to update Snow Leopard to 10.6.8 and give you access to the App Store.
When you receive the DVD:
Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
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6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
7. When completed quit DU and return to the installer. Complete the Snow Leopard installation. -
I have Mac OS X Version 10.6.8 ,I want to buy the updated operating system that puts iMessage and Facetime on my Macbook Pro. What should I search for, and then purchase, in the App Store?
FaceTime can run in the version of OS X that you currently have. To get Messageyou need Mountain Lion. The protocol used by Messages is iMeassage.
The question is does your MBP meet the specs for Mountain Lion.
iMac (Mid 2007 or newer)
MacBook (Late 2008 Aluminum, or Early 2009 or newer)
MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 or newer)
MacBook Air (Late 2008 or newer)
Mac mini (Early 2009 or newer)
Mac Pro (Early 2008 or newer)
Xserve (Early 2009)
Your Mac needs:
OS X v10.6.8 or OS X Lion already installed
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After installing iSO7, my iTunes is now outdated. Do I have to buy a newer operating system?
After installing iSO, my iTunes is now outdated. Do I have to purchase a new operating system or is there a quick fix?
Yes, you do. Click here and buy the DVD.
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I have just purchased an old macbook with an OS of 10.5. Im trying to download lightroom 4 but won't let me because of the OS (needs 10.7), when I tried to purchase the updated OS, it said I need 10.6 to do so!! I just want to download lightroom (3 or 4 preferabley). How do I go about doing so?
Thank you kindly in advanced...
New MAC ownerHello & a warm welcome to the forums & Macdom!
For Lightroom 3...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=adobe+lightroom+3
Silly Apple, you can't even buy Lion/10.7 anymore, onlt ML/10.8 after you get SL/10.6!???
You need to get 10.6 & update to 10.6.8 first to be able to buy it from the App Store & download it.
Snow Leopard/10.6.x Requirements...
General requirements
* Mac computer with an Intel processor
* 1GB of memory (I say 4GB at least, more if you can afford it)
* 5GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)
* DVD drive for installation
* Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
* Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.
Which apps work with Mac OS X 10.6?...
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/
It's been pulled from the online store, so you have to call Apple to buy it, last I heard, but quick, call before it's gone!
At the Apple Icon at top left>About this Mac.
Then click on More Info>Hardware and report this upto but not including the Serial#...
Hardware Overview:
Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac7,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.4 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 6 GB
Bus Speed: 800 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM71.007A.B03
SMC Version (system): 1.21f4 -
Laptop without operating system
Hi there!
I have a problem with my laptop. It is informing that I do not have an OS installed. From where I can see my hard disk?Hi Jack,
I presume that your error message appears when you try to boot your system, in which case it would seem that you master boot record is corrupt on your hard-drive.
You can, of course restore your system from your recovery CDs but this will revert it to its original factory condition and you will lose any of your data unless your drive has been partitioned.
If you wish to access your data on your hard drive you will need a bootable CD (or FDD) which will get you access to try to recover your HDD.
HTH -
Restore backup without operating system?
I'd like to know if it is possible to do a clean install of Mavericks on an iMac and then restore only the data from my earlier Time Machine/Mountain Lion backup. I want to ensure that Mountain Lion doesn't overwrite Mavericks.
Thanks for any advice you can offer.Yes.
Install or Reinstall Mavericks, Lion/Mountain Lion from Scratch
Be sure you backup your files to an external drive or second internal drive because the following procedure will remove everything from the hard drive.
Boot to the Recovery HD:
Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the COMMAND and R keys until the menu screen appears. Alternatively, restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager screen appears. Select the Recovery HD and click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Erase the hard drive:
1. Select Disk Utility from the main menu and click on the Continue button.
2. After DU loads select your startup volume (usually Macintosh HD) from the
left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
3. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Optionally, click on
the Security button and set the Zero Data option to one-pass. Click on
the Erase button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Quit DU and return to the main menu.
Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks: Select Reinstall Lion/Mountain Lion, Mavericks and click on the Install button.
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Hi everybody. I have a MacBook that's about five years old. I want to buy the newest operating system so that it runs better (because currently it is struggling), however I would like to clean up all the old software before I do that. I want it to be as clean and new as possible before I buy the new operating system, instead of just downloading it ontop of all of the rubbish I must have accumulated. I also want to keep my data (documents, photographs etc). Would anybody be kind enough to provide me with a step-by-step (can be as concise as you like, depending on how much time/effort you have to explain!) guide as to how I might go about doing this myself? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank so much guys.
Step number one - Back up all your important data!
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Two - don't expect a new operating system to improve performance. Get the computer running as best as it can before you upgrade. You may need more RAM or a bigger hard drive. -
I have an iMac with a 10.4.11 operating system. When I click on iTunes Store, I no longer get the iTunes screen, instead, I get a new iTunes download screen.
I can't download the new iTunes without upgrading my operating system. Is there a way around this problem without buying the new operating system?
I haven't been able to download songs for awhile now.which version of iTunes are you on ? if it's earlier than iTunes 9.2.1, get it here.
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Can I use two operative systems running in my iMac G5?
A few weeks ago I bought a digital videocamera, Canon MV830i, it's an easy and a cheap cam.
Well, now I've filmed some stuffs and I want it over to my iMac. I put in the DV-cable, with firewire, into the cam and the computer. Nothing is happening. I try to open up iMovie but it says ther is no videocamera connected. And then I read on the box, which the videocamera were delivered in, and it says that I need to have an earlier operative system than Mac OS X Tiger, 10.4.3, that I have.
So that i wonder is if I can download or buy an earlier operative system, ex. Panther 10.3, and still have my Tiger operative system in the computer.
Do you knoe what I'm going to do? Please help me!
Thank You Max Landegren, Stockholm, SwedenAnd then I read on the box,
which the videocamera were delivered in, and it says
that I need to have an earlier operative system than
Mac OS X Tiger, 10.4.3, that I have.
Max, it's unlikely the camera requires Panther. The box was probably printed before Tiger was available. If the camera ran in Panther, mostly likely it will run in Tiger too. That's how these things usually work.
Before going to all the trouble to locate and install Panther, I suggest you try to get your camera to work in Tiger. iMovie Help has some tips about troubleshooting FireWire, as well as Apple's online information for iMovie. Both are available in iMovie's Help menu.
Karl -
Operating system update on my imac
i am unable to upload songs on to my new ipod because it requires itunes 7.1.1, and i am unable to download itunes 7.1.1 because i only have mac os x 10.2.8
I have tried downloading more recent versions of mac os x but they all fail...
the problem is that my computer has been offline for 9 months and hasnt been constantly updating as it previously did and now ive finally got it back online i dont know where to start. please help!!!
will i have to buy a new operating system....if so, which one???
cripes!!imparja, Welcome to the discussion area!
OS 10.2.8 is the last free upgrade to the OS 10.2 series. See KB 75421, Mac OS X 10.2: Chart of available Mac OS software updates.
There is no free way to go from OS 10.2.8 to OS 10.3 or OS 10.4.
You could go to OS 10.4 or OS 10.3 but you will need to buy the upgrade. BTW, you don't need OS 10.3 to get to OS 10.4. -
I-tunes is note letting me access i-tunes store without first dowloading the new version of i-tunes. The problem is that my older operating system won't work and is not allowing the newer i-tune versions to work. How can I just get use the old i-tunes?
Hi,
Not sure if any of you above have managed to solve your problem or not but after coming across this same problem myself today as I am currently 'sofa bound' I decided to make it my mission to find a way around it.
Initially I did think, having ready what seemed like a million questions and people with the same problem, that the only way was to buy OS X 10.5 ... HOWEVER, no. In among all these threads I found a jewel - Download I Tunes 9.2.1 which gets rid of the download itunes 10 advert and allows you to then buy from itunes again :-) I am now one very happy lady.
I apologise to all those that dont have older versions of OS X that maybe wont support even this upgrade but certainly for those like me with just 4yr old lap tops at least it means it not longer means buying a new one.
Hope this helps son very frustrated people like myself - so much for apple support! -
i have zero out all data on my imac, as i brought it second hand and the disk the guy supplied dont seem capatable with my imac to install the operating system again so it is frozen at the grey start up screen. should i buy a new snow leopard disc from apple and install that as my new operating system. please help as had the computer a month now and still cant use it yet.
You can call AppleCare and request a replacement set of the original DVD's that shipped with the computer for a nominal charge. You will need the serial number (look on the bottom of the stand) and a credit card. Click the AppleCare Contact Info link. Without knowing which iMac you have it's very difficult to say if a new SL disc would work or not.
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I am using a mac mini 2011 an 3gs i phone 2010 macbook white 2008 and a new 2013 apple tv box. When i check info on the cloud I get 'upgrade your operating system to the latest. My question is is it possible to use the icloud system without an upgrade
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