BW APO BPS
Hello,
Could someone please help me with the following questions,
1. Why don't we use TransactionCube instead of RemoteCube in BW for APO plan data, as we do it for BPS plans in BW.
2. Is it possible to do reporting on planned data directly in Bex for either of the APO and BPS plans, without data-marting to some remote cube/BasicCube/TransactionCube in BW and then do reporting on that. If so, how to do that?
3. Is there any relation b/w BW-BPS and SCM-APO, I meant, would they exchange or share any data by any way?
4. Is it possible to, or is there any scenario that, planned and actual data need to be maintained together in one basic or transaction cube.?
In other words
Does transaction or Basic cube holds plan and actual data together in any scenario, instead of MultiProvider on top of Plan and Actual Cubes ?
Thanks in Advance
Hi,
Would you also please help me with the following,
As per the responses, it was clear the same transaction cube could be used for both actual and plan data. Also said it needs to be switched between actual data upload from InfoSource and through BPS plan data.
I knew this switching could be done through TransactionCube's context menu, and then by changing the Loading behavior,
But my Doubt is "How do you handle this switching in production system?, As usually production system does not allow any changes to the properties of BW objects" (in our case Transaction Cube).
Do you say every time you change the property in development system and transport it to Production system? Or you say this switching could be incorporated into Process Chain so that can be achieved in Prod System itself?
Would you also please care about 1st and 3rd questions of the Main Post
I say thanks with Points
Edited by: curious maven on May 9, 2008 3:35 PM
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Regards,
MadhuHi,
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/bi/apo%2b-%2bbw%2badhoc%2breporting
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/BBLibrary/documentation/B84_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_DE.doc
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/html/BW/DemPlanAnal.htm
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/integrate%20bw-bps%20and%20apo-dp.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/7e/63fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
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Madhu.Hi,
Check these............
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/bi/apo%2b-%2bbw%2badhoc%2breporting
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/BBLibrary/documentation/B84_BB_ConfigGuide_EN_DE.doc
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/html/BW/DemPlanAnal.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5f229690-0201-0010-84ba-9ee5a8958a05
Re: APO BW Integration
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/4fe5d590-0201-0010-6c8d-ada86492cf11
APO and BW
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/integrate%20bw-bps%20and%20apo-dp.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/7e/63fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
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Some cube records don't displaying in BPS layout
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Hi Folks,
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[email protected]
or
anylinks or anyinformation also greatly rewared.....
Please help me out in this regard.
Thanks & Regards,
ashokHI
find the links below which provides very good information on SEM-BPS
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/s-u/sap%20bw%20business%20planning%20and%20simulation%20-%20how%20to%20guides%20list.htm
https://media.sdn.sap.com/public/eclasses/teched04/BW253_files/Default.htm#nopreload=1
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn?rid=/webcontent/uuid/3040dd5d-0501-0010-baa8-fc0aafa88c40 [original link is broken]
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv235/BI_EN/html/BW/CostCtrPlan.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/d-f/enhancements%20bw-bps%20formerly%20sem-bps%20in%20sapnetweaver%2004.ppt
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5d90209f-0501-0010-59a2-9243ac94a4d7
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/05/242537cedf2056e10000009b38f936/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/html/BW/CostCtrPlan.htm
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv335/BI_EN/html/BW/SalesPlan.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem350bw/helpdata/en/e1/8e51341a06084de10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e7939990-0201-0010-ad83-c78402c859e3
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a289d590-0201-0010-a1ac-bf5cc3463896
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Hi,
our company is moving towards planning.We have a confusion choosing between planning in R/3 and SEM BPS.Can anyone help me please.Thanks.
Guruhi!
i am sorry but i dont have any document which actually compares these two but you can check http://cio.ittoolbox.com/groups/strategy-planning/enterprise-architecture-sp/sap-apo-vs-r3-planning-965682# which compares apo planing V/S R/3 .
with regards
ashwin -
Hi Everyone,
I have a question regarding APO and BI Integrated Planning. If we are using APO DP is it a good option to implement BI Integrated planning as well. because both of them have the same planning and forecasting strategies. Is BI Integrated Planning and alternate option for APO DP or can it be used along with APO DP for planning on certain reports. Thank you very much for your time.
Edited by: akshay27 on Oct 14, 2009 8:30 PM
Edited by: akshay27 on Oct 14, 2009 8:39 PMHi Akshay27,
I have personnally never use the BI integrating planning, but based on my knowledges; hopefully somebody with more experience in this area will be able to complete this answer!
Integrated planning indeed allow to realised more and more planning using BW infrastructure. The very big advantages is the user friendliness.
However this does not exclude the use a DP. Both can be use together, for example DP for your power user and integrated planning for collaboration. DP will be the "master system" enabling you to maintain CVC, run complex statistical forecast, validate foecast.
(I have seen a simialr implementation a couple of year ago using BPS).
Note for exaple that the new functionality "customer forecast management" in SCM 7 use both DP and IP.
You mentioned the possibilty to perform statistical calculation in IP... I haven't actually seen that, but I am not convince you will have the capacity of DP (seasonal planning, promotion, like profile... MLR, POS forecast...), If you know more, please let me know.
I hope this help a bit; now if somebody could provide more information about IP, that would be great!
Thanks and Regards
Julien -
Hi All,
I ned to add some fields to APO cube. I need to change Data source to.
My doubt is, How is the extraction procedure in APO mean is there any
extractor like R/3. Please let me know.
Thanks,
KNHi,
For Datasources:
Re: APO/BW: How to get back from APO to BW/ How the send data from BW to APO
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/c9/199170f13711d4b2f20050da385632/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/e0/9088392b385f6be10000000a11402f/frameset.ht
APO extraction
The presentation.
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/integrate%20bw-bps%20and%20apo-dp.pdf
the links:
https://websmp201.sap-ag.de/scm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/12/3dfd81126e1c448c870f335f11d016/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/12/3dfd81126e1c448c870f335f11d016/frameset.htm
APO Documents Required
apo
BW with APO
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/db/4774404a6fcf62e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
APO and BW
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I'm facing some strange problems in our BW-System. Last weekend we got some error messages: "ORA-01653: unable to extend table " This happend during loading. No problem, basis team worked fine and data loading ist going well again.
Now comes the strange stuff: Every Cube that had problems last weekend has a request with status "red" called "Request loaded using the APO interface without monitor log". The Request date is in some cases 14 days in the past.
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Difference between planning r/3 and BPS
Hello gurus
Can u please let me know the main difference between planning in R/3 and BW-BPS
komalHi,
SAP R/3 planning
1. CO-PA is used to input sales forecasts and production
quantities directly into CO (reporting out of Report Painter
or ABAP)
2. Sales and operational planning can assist with make or buy
planning (reporting out of ABAP or standard SAP R/3 reports)
3. Production planning determines the capacity and your ability
to meet the sales and operational plan (reporting out of ABAP
or LIS)
4. Cost center planning and/or product costing uses planned
activity rates and/or product costs to derive the P&L (reporting
out of standard SAP R/3 reports or ABAP)
5. Possible other plans in PCA, labor in HR, and procurement in
MM (reporting out of various SAP R/3 reporting tools)
BI-IP planning
1. BI-IP is used to input sales forecasts and production quantities
(reporting out of SAP NetWeaver BI)
2. BI-IP can be used for sales and operational planning for make
or buy planning (reporting out of SAP NetWeaver BI)
3. APOs Demand Planning determines the capacity and your
ability to meet the sales and operational plan (reporting out of
SAP NetWeaver BI)
4. BI-IP performs cost center planning and/or product costing
using planned activity rates and/or product costs to derive the
P&L (reporting out of SAP NetWeaver BI)
5. Possible other plans in BI-IP include profit center, labor, cost
center, and procurement (reporting out of SAP NetWeaver BI)
SAP R/3 pros:
�� Has sophisticated allocation functionality
�� BPS does not
�� Consider retraction of BI-IP data to SAP R/3 for allocation
�� Offers availability control
�� Not available in BI-IP
�� Allows you to use existing Report Painter/Writer SAP R/3
reports in planning
�� BI-IP uses SAP NetWeaver BI reports or must retract
data back to SAP R/3 to use existing Report
Painter/Writer reports
BI-IP pros:
�� Allows you to use master data that does not exist in SAP R/3
�� For SAP R/3 planning, SAP R/3 master data must be used
�� Limits your ability to do what ifs with nonexistent
master data or hierarchies
�� Has one interface for all planning and reporting
�� SAP R/3 has different interfaces for each SAP R/3 module,
thus increasing confusion and training costs
�� Easier full integration in BI-IP harder to achieve in SAP R/3
�� Uses single reporting tool in BI-IP (SAP NetWeaver BI) SAP
R/3 uses different tools per module
All planning functions are available in BI-IP regardless of
functional area
�� In SAP R/3, planning functions differ by module or dont
exist at all
�� All planning functions are Web-enabled in BI-IP
�� Some planning functions arent Web-enabled in SAP R/3
Regards. -
Morning gurus,
I am new to sap apo and i just want to post some threads on apo where can i post them in sdn.
Thanks
vpHi,
APO is the supply chain tool from SAP. BW is the data layer for APO. SAP APO is for Demand Planning and is a component of mySAP SCM. It enables dynamic supply chain management and which in turn includes applications for detailed planning, optimization and scheduling, allowing the supply chain to be accurately and globally monitored even beyond enterprise boundaries.
SAP BI is a reporting tool in SAP. It provides a complete view of the company. The solution is part of SAP NetWeaver and provides the tools needed to make the right decisions, optimize processes, and measure strategic success: data from all enterprise sources are merged effectively and can be comprehensively analyzed, business-critical factors can be monitored using external and internal benchmarks, the most important KPIs can be passed on to all the relevant forces in a company in real time, strategies can be rapidly adapted to changed market conditions, and the results of analyses can be graphically represented in a wide variety of formats, such as grids, graphs, and maps
Check this:
What is APO and how it is related to BW
SAP Advanced Planner and Optimizer is a component of the mySAP Supply Chain Management solution that you use for planning and optimizing supply chain processes at a strategic, tactical, and operational planning level.
With APO - Simultaneous Material & Capacity Planning is possible, as against R/3 PP
APO Planning is capable of taking all the constraints into consideration with Planning for Capacities/Scheduling
APO Resource (workcenter in R/3) does a Capacity availability check before scheduling an activity, if capacity is not available, it finds the immediate next available slot & schedules the activity there. This is not possible with R/3
http://www.sap.com/solutions/business-suite/scm/pdf/BWP_APO40.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_apo/helpdata/en/7e/63fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/bp_biv133/documentation/BW/I18_Scen_InstallGuide_EN_DE.doc
Datasources
APO extraction
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/library/biw/g-i/integrate%20bw-bps%20and%20apo-dp.pdf
Take a look some docs on BW-APO
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5f229690-0201-0010-84ba-9ee5a8958a05
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/4fe5d590-0201-0010-6c8d-ada86492cf11
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm41/helpdata/en/92/dd013872af2946e10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_apo/helpdata/en/7e/63fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
Hope this helps.
Thanks,
JituK
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