BW35 & ECC 500 in same system?

From the documents, and from the information from SAP, it appears that BW 3.5 can be installed into an ERP 2004 / ECC 500 system. Does anyone have any experience with this during the ECC 5 rampup?
I have a client that is considering this and would like to know of any gotchas before we hit them.

Hi Murray,
If you install or upgrade to mySAP ERP ECC 5.0, you will have SAP BW 3.5 automatically available in your ERP system. just the same way that you have Web AS 6.40 present too. This is a fully functional BW system!
If you customer is interested in using the internal BW system within your ERP system, I suggest you contact your SAP representative for more information.
Also there is a forum dedicated to the SAP NetWeaver integration with ERP. It is called "Integration with mySAP ERP 2004" and it is located in the SAP NetWeaver general section.
If you have specific questions about the impact of running the internal SAP BW with ERP, please post in that forum as it is continually monitored.
I hope this helps,
Mike.

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1. The mySAP ERP 2004 ECC 5.0 and it's internal SAP BW is <b>not</b> an MCOD implementation. The SAP BW is internal with the ECC (same instance, same database schema, and same database. Whereas MCOD is different instances, different schemas, but same database. One important point is that MCOD and mySAP ERP 2004 fully support three tier architecture.
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hi
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https://websmp106.sap-ag.de/sapidb/011000358700000370562009E/SM_SECURITY_SPS23.pdf|https://websmp106.sap-ag.de/sapidb/011000358700000370562009E/SM_SECURITY_SPS23.pdf]
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I am pasting the code below whn i ran this program in backgorund job log is having the messages.
Date       Time     Message text                                                                 Message class Message no. Message type
08/06/2009 08:11:53 Job started                                                                       00           516          S
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lwa_bapimepoitemx-plant = 'X'.
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lwa_bapimepoitemx-agreement = 'X'.
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lwa_bapimepoitemx-preq_item = 'X'.
lwa_bapimepoitemx-no_rounding = 'X'.
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