Cables to connect my PCI-7334 motion to one UMI and one SSR backplane?

i want to connect a PCI 7334 to one UMI and one SSR backplane, what cables do i need (number)

Hi NI_Rookie. This is a good question.
To connect the 7344 to a UMI, you need the SH68-C68-S Cable with D-Type Connector (#186381-02).
To connect the 7344 to an SSR backplane, you need the SHC68-C68-S Cable (#186380-02) with the SSR 8, 16, 24 Channel Cable Adapter (#778262-01)
If you need help getting everything set up, please let us (the forum enthusiasts) know.
Kyle V.

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Connecting Hall Effect Sensor as an encoder(feedback) for PCI 7356 Motion Controller

Hi,
We have Labview 2010 and the following hardwares for testing a specific motor (a brushless DC motor):
NI PCI 7356 Motion Controller
NI UMI 7774
AKD Servo Drive P00606
However, I met some difficulty when wiring the motor to the motor drive(and controller). In the manual, it says PCI 7356 needs encoder signals as the feedback. But our motor doesn't have a built-in encoder. It has three Hall Effect Sensors, which we plan to use as an encoder. If we feed the hall sensor signals as the encoder phase signals (Phase A, B) to the drive/controller, I wonder if Labview or PCI 7356 (after an appropriate configuration) can adjuct the phase (from 120 degree to 90). Does it work even without the adjustment?
If the above doesn't work, can I feed only one Hall Effect sensor signal as Encoder Phase A and don't feed anything to Phase B (since I only need control the motor speed in one direction)? Will PCI 7356 or Labview recognize the signal and function accordingly?
If it doesn't work as well, could I use motor's Back EMF as a feedback (this motor produces a decent sinusoidal back EMF)? If I can, how should I configure the hardware and wire the motor to controller accordingly?
If all three above don't work, could you suggest a way to solve this problem?
Thanks so much for your help.
Best,
Chen

Hey Chen,
I have comfirmed that the PCI card will not be able to do feedback with the hall effect sensors. However, you could do that with our NI 951x modules if you run it in FPGA mode. You would need an extra IO module to set up the hall effect sensors with, but you could effectively customize your control and your feedback on the FPGA board immediately.
For your other post, I am not sure you can create a time constraint on the move, I believe that when you define a motion, you would need to define the number of steps or the position and not the time. If you are running the motor at a specific velocity for an amount of time, you would need to set that as the number of revolutions and not time.
I hope this helps.
Regards,
A. Zaatari
National Instruments
Applications Engineer

DIO lines of NI PCI 7334

Hi
I have a NI PCI 7334 motion controller from which I hope to controll 4 stepper motors through a MID 7604 stepper motor driver. In addition to this I require to drive 6 relays from TTL signals (generated from commands from labview) through the digital IO lines of the device.Can this controller provide 6 digital out puts ( each giving a TTL signal) and one ground like in the case of DAQ device. I only have the cable connecting the controller to the MID 7604 stepper driver. What else is required to get the digital output lines and the ground similar to a DAQ device?
Thanks
Mal

The PCI-7334 provides two connectors. One (1) for the motion control signals (which you are using) andanother one (2)for the additional 32 digital lines.
On connector 1 there are also 4 digital output lines available that can be used as general purpose digital outputs for the case that you don't need the breakpoint feature of the board. These are open collector DOs pulled up to +5 V with a 5.5 kOhm resistor and they can sink up to 64 mA. You can place a parallel resistor between each DO and +5 V in order to increase the current. Please note that the resulting resistance (3.3 kOhm in parallel with your resistor + load resistance) shouldn't be below 78 Ohm.
As there are only 4 breakpoint outputs available this solution will probably not work for you so you should use the additional digital lines on connector 2 instead which will require a cable (e. g. 186381-01) and a connector block. These DIOs provide a 0 to 5 V voltage range and can sink and source 24 mA. The current range can be extended with external SSR modules. For more information please refer to the NI 7330 user manual.
Best regards,
Jochen Klier
National Instruments Germany

LabVIEW runtime application doesn't recognize 7334 motion board

I have programmed an application with a PCI-7334 motion controller which works fine (with LabVIEW 7.0 and NI Motion 6.1.2). Then I built a runtime application with the application builder and transferred it together with the motion controller to another PC and I get a lot of error messages like "illegal board number". The board ID shown in MAX is correct and corresponds to the value in my application.
Then I installed the LabVIEW development system on this other PC and the VIs run properly and recognizes the controller.
Where is the mistake?

There is a little trap when creating an executable from a LabVIEW program that is accessing a NI motion control board. The problem is caused by a type def that is reset to its default value in an executable.
The solution of this problem is quite simple. Please refer to the following document in the NI knowledge base for a detailled explanation and to learn how to resolve this issue:
http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/websearch/479BEE5E530908F286256E520044563E?OpenDocument
Best regards,
Jochen Klier
NI-Germany

Controling a sigma koki motorrized stage via a PCI 7334

Hi everyone,
I am trying to control a sigma koki motorized stage via a PCI 7334.
The motor is a stepper motor.
For information, here is the connection diagram of the stage via the driver (SG55M on the diagram) to the controler:
http://www.sigma-koki.com/english/D/SteppingMotors/Diagram/Diagram/Diagram.html
I ran a selftest on the motor using the driver and everything is going well.
As a first step of my design, i would just like to control the motor without any feedback, and without limit switch options.
I am using a 1:1 connector CB68LPR from NI to connect the driver to the PCI 7334. Doing this, i provide CW and CCW signals from the PCI to the driver as well as the inhibit signal. Thus, I come up using the pins 1,35, and 6 of the 68pins connector. Looking at other threads posted on NI, I believe those connections are enough to observe a simple move of my motor isnt it?
When i try out within MAX to test a movement using the 1 D interactive feature, my stage doesnt move.
MAX is confingured as followed:
> only axis1 enabled
> CW, CCW stepper mode
> limit and home switch disabled
> inhibit output setting enable
> ADC, PWM, ENcoder disabled since i dont use them so far
Those parameters are initializing the pci.
Is there other parameters that i should look at and which could prevent my motor to work?
While doing this first step, I monitor the signals from the PCI via oscilloscope and clock pusles are ok.
It is the first time i try to control a stepper motor using a PCI so i read the documentation to be found on Ni website, and i may just have forgoten something, but i cant see what...
Do i need to provide some additional signals? Or just with CW, CCW, and inhibit is ok?
If you find any comments or recommendations, they are welcome
Cheers ^ - ^

Hello Gegurissi,
To test the motor with a minimum configuration, you can connect CW, CCW, and digital ground lines to the driver.
It looks like that there is no ground connected to the motor, so please make sure that they are connected to the ground of the driver, too.
For the MAX settings, it seems fine, but the settings have to be saved and the board has to be initialized before the motor is moved.
In 1-D Interactive feature, please make sure that a value is entered in the "target position" section and click "apply" button.
Also, are there any error messages when you move the stage?
One last thing I would like to mention is that it is strongly recommended to use Universal Motion Interfaces (UMI) and Motion cables for the NI motion controllers.
The UMI devices are powered, such that they can provide necessary power to encoders, limit switches, etc.
If you have any questions, please let me know.
National Instruments Japan
Satoko Yuda

PCI-7334 and L298

Hi there!
Hope someone will help me with this one. I am currently working on a project that uses the pci-7334 stepper motor controller. unfortunately, i don't have any power drive with me. but i do have an UMI-7764 connector block and a L298 dual full-bridge driver. i also have some stepper motors with me but they are not of NI's. my question is: is it possible for me to used the pci-7334 to connect with the L298 and to the stepper motors using the UMI-7764? if possible, could anyone help me with the proper wire connections? thanks ahead for the response!
kris
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It is NOT that easy to drive a stepper motor, you need quite a bit more circuitry than just a plain half-bridge driver. You also have to control the current flowing through the motor winding. This is mostly done via PWM (pulse width modulation) since this method allows for using plain on/off switches which have more efficiency than an analogue control circuit. Also, using plain switches allows for running a stepper motor in full-step mode only which will yield rather rough motion/rotation.
You can enter the learning curve and design all this from scratch but it will be probably much more cost and time effective to use a ready-for-use driver. We are using drivers from IMS
http://www.imshome.com
They also offer a range of stepper motors but their drivers are compatible with most 2/4 phase stepper motors on the market, we are using them together with Phytec and Oriental motors. Their manuals are very extensive and also cover the basics of stepper motor operation and connection to drivers.

Problem updating the Firmware on a PCI-7334

About me: I am pretty new to the Labview/NI landscape so I may be missing something here! That said im very technically aware in general and believe I understand what is going on here.
Background: This NI PCI-7334 board has been taken from currently unused project stock so current physical condition of board is not really known (ie was not recently working) although it appears to be in good physical order.
Attempting to setup a new Labview 7 Express development environment on new PC hardware with a clean build of Windows XP Pro SP1 along with 1 x IMAQ PCI-1411 and 1 x IMAQ PCI-1408.
Attempting to update the PCI-7334 with the latest firmware in NI Motion 6.1.2. I select the option "Update All Firmware Sectors" f
rom the firmware tree by right mouse clicking. It starts off with the buttonless (ie No Cancel Button) file transfer progress dialog box. But after about 30 seconds I keep getting the error "Error configuring the board for download. Please ensure that the board is in a reset state and that no other application is communicating with it."
Existing Firmware versions are listed in NiMAX as:
68331 - 6.00.3012
DSP - 6.00.3008
FPGA1 - [BLANK*]
FPGA2 - [BLANK*]
*Listed in tree without a version
Unusually under the General listing I get "0" for the device serial number!
When I go into the "Status" area and choose the "Reset Device" option I eventually get these status lights (red):
Ready to Receive
Power Up Reset
Modal Error Message
0x80 Move Complete Status
I have tried removing all other cards from the PC to ensure there is not a compatability issue.
At this stage it would appear that it is a hardware problem so I was wondering what options I have available to g
et this card repaired. Is repair by NI economically viable or is a new puchase a better approach? IE are repairs done at a fixed price or based on materials and labour?
Please advise!
Thanks, Rod.
Attachments:
NI_PCI-7334_Firmware_Update_Error.zip ‏115 KB

I agree with your diagnostics. It looks like something went wrong during the last firmware update. The only solution for this problem is to send the board for repair.
NI has fixed prices for repairs which are much cheaper than buying a new board. Please contact your local NI branch for details.
Best regards,
Jochen Klier
Applications Engineering Group Leader
National Instruments Germany GmbH

Connecting Yaskawa Sigma FSP Motor Drive With UMI-7774 and PCI-7344

Hi,
i have PCI-7344 and UMI-7774 that i want to connect to this Servo motor drive of Yaskawa.
1) How do i know if this motor drive is compatible with the pci-7344 and umi7774 ?
     for example: inside the UMI manual is written that the Motor drive must support "Sinusoidal Commutation"
     i look indside the Motor Drive manual and i dont found anything about this.
     this is link to the motor drive:
     http://www.yaskawa.com/site/products.nsf/products/Servo%20Amplifiers~fspsigma.html
     http://www.yaskawa.com/site/products.nsf/products/Servo%20Amplifiers~fspsigma.html?openDocument&seq=...
2) How do i connect the feedback and control lines from the UMI to the Motor drive?
i'll appreciate any help including posting a link to a tutorial that helps to understand the signals from the motor drive and the encoder
And also the umi-7344 (Phase A, Phase B, Hall sensor, inhibit, Fault, etc... )
Some powerpoint or Pdf tutorial that National instruments provide will help as well.
P.S. i read the manual of the UMI-7774 and the pci7344 manual, but i'm yet not understand what i need to do
in order to configure my motion system :
PCI-7344 , UMI-7774 , Motor Drive (Sigma FSP Yaskawa) , Servo Motor (Yaskawa)
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Moti
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Dear Nate,
Thank you for repling to my posts, i really appreciate that.
The links you provide is very helpfull.
i'm enginner in my education, but not in this area (i'm information systems eng.)
i decided that i need to learn more about it (ni-imaq, ni-motion, line-scan camera, servo, servo drives, encoder signals, motion i/o, umi, pci7344, etc..)
So, i download the manual and help files that is needed to my application i want to build
(high speed machine vision of color line-scan camera connected to motion with rtsi synchronization and also digital i/o)
and now i'm reading ALL this, its huge amount to read, and not all the thing i understand in the begining (english is not my lang..)
Thanks again for the replies.
Best Regards,
Moti

A stepper motor attached to PCI-7334 travels in same direction for both +/- input

Hi everyone, I'm seeing some bizarre behavior on my system and was hoping you could help me out.
I have the PCI-7334 stepper controller installed and running on my system, with 2 axis-s connected.
Axis 1 operates as expected, running one direction for a positive target, and the other for a negative target.
Axis 2 on the other hand, runs in the same direction regardless of if I give it a positive or negaative target position.
This seems to be limited to axis 2, I connected the wires running from axis 1 on the connector block to the second motor driver and it then started to act as expected.
Any idea whats going on?

Have you checked with a DMM or a scope if the Dir output is working fine? Maybe this behavior is caused by the wiring of the open collector outputs for step & direction. Maybe due to device tolerances the current driven by axis 2 for the Dir output is a little bit too low, so the drive doesn't recognize the changed level. Please refer to this link in our KB and check if the wiring hints apply to your setup.
A second option is a defective board. In this case please contact your local NI branch.
Thanks,
Jochen

"Error Deleting Device" when removing PCI-7334 in MAX

I added a Virtual NI-Motion device by doing the follwoing in MAX:
Right click "Devices and Interfaces"->Create New->Virtual NI Motion Devices->Virtual 7334
Now my hardware has arrived, but when I installed the card in a PCI slot, no new devices were listed. There was only one entry, with the device status of "Device is not responding or has been removed from the system". I wanted to remove this device, but was unable to. I do the following:
Right click "PCI-7334 (1)"->Remove Device
After answering yes to the dialogue, I get a pop-up that says "Error Deleting Device". How can I get around this problem?
Thanks for the help!

Hi Jay,
It sounds like there might have been some sort of corruption in the data file in Measurement and Automation Explorer. I recommend deleting the Data folder in the following directory:
...Documents and Settings\ All Users\Application Data\National Instruments\MAX
This will simply cause MAX to reinitialize its settings. Any saved information such as Tasks and Configurations will be lost though.
Thanks,
Wes P.
Applications Engineer
National Instruments
Wes P
Certified LabVIEW Developer

PCI-7334, Error code 7005

When I open Measurement & Automation Explorer I cannot communicate with the PCI-7334. The error I get is: 70005 (NIMC_boardFailureEreor).
What I did was to try to update the firmware. However, the following message appeared and it was not possible to proceed: "Error configuring the board for download. Please ensure that the board is in a reset state and that no other application is communicating with it".
I try to give some information that may be useful to understand the problem.
The status of the controller is:
- Ready to receive: GREEN
- Data in the return data buffer: GREEN
- Command in process: GREEN
- Pocket error: GREEN
- Power up reset: RED
- Modal error message: RED
- Hardware failure: RED
Moreover, the version of NI Motion is 6.1.2.
I read on the forum that this problem may be related to a hardware failure. Can I try to do some other checks before sending the card to repair?
Thank you,
Giuditta

Giuditta,
it's very likely, that you will have to send the board for repair. However to make sure, that you are not only facing an installer issue on the PC (which is quite unlikeyl) you may want to install a later version of NI-Motion on another PC and try to do a firmware upgrade there.
Kind regards,
Jochen Klier
National Instruments

Tension control in labview using PCI 7354 Motion Control Board

I want to make a program for web tension control of roll to roll system in labview using PCI 7354 Motion Control Board. Is there any interface program that can convert my controller output in a format to be directly used as the input of PCI 7354 (Motion Controller Board) for tension control?
Thank you!

thanks for your reply, i have already make the code of a straight line move and the motor moves successfully, but know i want to put the H-bridge to be able to make a reverse direction for the motor, for your information i only use a PCI-7340 controller and a UMI-7774, where the controller connected to the UMI-7774, the UMI connected to a PWM circuit and the PWM connected to the DC-motor, so what do you think i can do?

12VDC for Limit and Home Signals for PCI 7334 using UMI-7764

Can 12VDC be used for Limit and Home Signals for PCI 7334 using UMI-7764.
Can the UMI 7764 be damaged if over voltage is supplied to it. If so can it be repaired or it has to replaced.

Specifications for the Limit Switchs (home, forward, reverse, etc) is
determined by the specifications of your NI motion controller PCI
board. The UMI functions only as a pass through and breakout for the
board .
The valid limit swich voltage for the PCI-7334 is 0 - 5 V. You will have to divide down a 12 V input before running it to
the UMI and to your board. The 3.3k pull up resistor is only used to
pull floating voltages to TTL levels and does not protect for high
voltage signals.
Please note that the UMI-7774 provides optical isolation for limit switches and extended input levels (e. g. limit switch voltages: On = 3.5 to 30 V, Off = 0 to 2 V).
Best regards,
Jochen Klier
National Instruments Germany

Connections from PCI-8532 to DeviceNet Micro-style connectors?

Hello,
I am looking to connect a PCI-8532-equipped PC to some already existing processing equipment running on DeviceNet. Are there any easy options (i.e., patch cables available) to convert the 9-pin D-sub from the PCI-8532 to DNet micro-style, or do I have to crimp my own connectors? I have come up empty so far...
Thanks,
Shane.

Shane,
I'm not too sure where you can find DeviceNet to DB9, as NI does not produce those types of cables. There are various DeviceNet to serial modules that require wiring. I suggest looking at Rockwell Automation products as they carry a lot of different cables for DeviceNet and you may find a DeviceNet to DB9 cable there.
Regards,
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Can I use a SH68-68EPM cable to connect a PXI-6704 with a BNC-2090?

Hi,
I was wondering if I could use a SH68-68-EPM cable to connect a PXI-6704 (sitting in a PXI-1002 Chassis and talking to my (Windows 7) PC via a PCI-8331) with a BNC-2090-box.The manual suggests to use a D1-cable but maybe it is possible to still get the analog outputs from the BNC-box although the cable is different?
Thanks for your help!

Hi cars10,
The BNC-2090 is not compatible with the NI 6704 due to pin mapping. You can use BNC connections via the CA-1000 or use a card from the analog output series family with the BNC-2090A or BNC-2110 as described in the user manual.
Regards,
h_baker
National Instruments
Applications Engineer
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