CAF / GP Versus Business Workflow

Hello All...
When would you use Guided Procedures versus Business Workflow? Are there any implementations using Guided Procedures for an Enterprise Class Production application?
Thanks!
BK

BWF is an Abap WF engine highly coupeld with R3. So it'll work very well WF procedures that SAP has predefined. It can leverage SAP business objects interfaces and rules in a natively integrated environment with SAP data layer like HR infotypes and Org structures. BWF runtime is proven and robust and loaded with tools. Its design time is scary and complex to work with.
GP is a Process engine whose technical foundation Netweaver Java WF engine. It can also integrate with the Abap WF but that's messy. While it'll work with existing SAP rules and data, it's more appropriate for new process-based scenarios or composite processes (the collaborative kind or innovative kind like SAP likes to call them, those processes that gravitate around ERP and are cross-departmental, cross-functional and cross-systems) and non-SAP environment. GP runtime is new and lack the maturity and toolset compared to BWF. Its design time is easier to work with than BWF.

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