Calculate Data Forms

Greetings,
I'm testing a data form with the default setting "calculate data forms" setting turned on and the same data form with it turned off. There is a significant difference in save time when the default setting is not included. I looked up the definition of what "calculate data forms" is doing, to calculate subtotals, but my data form does not have any subtotals that have been programmed into it, but does pull on dynamic calc members. Does anyone have an idea why there would be a difference, in some forms it is taking 10x longer. Not sure if this setting should ever be used in this scenario.
Thanks!
Joe

Joe,
I have never seen a "professional" Hyperion developer leave this feature on. Why would you let Planning try to figure out what needs to be calculated and then let it dynamically build a script under the covers? If your sub-totals are being calculated dynamically, then there's no need to use this feature. If they aren't, build a focused business rule and associate it with the save of the form. That way, you know exactly what is being calculated and how.
It's a bit like using CALC ALL. The feature is there . . . but in my opinion, it's a crutch for inexperienced resources.
Hope this helps,
- Jake

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Hello User626014,
Thank you so much for looking into my requirement and I appreciate your effort in guiding me with the logic. I will surely try your approach and see if it meets all my requirements.
I think I understand your logic too. Just for your information the call on whether the data will be in the "Working" or "Final" version still needs to be made. It could possibly happen that the users are given the working version to work with and so we will have the version set to "Working" on our data form.
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iam newbie to planning
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