CALCULATION OF ACTUAL PRICE CALCULATION - KSII
Dear Friends,
We are using Make to Order scenario and NOT USING Sales order based costing, I would like to calculate Automatic activity price calculation and revaluate my production order with actual prices (MFN1), for this I need to create & assign splitting rules to cost centers & follow the t.codes KSS2, KSII, KBK7 (DISPLAY) and finally MFN1.
For Calculation of KSS2, how Plan Quantity has to be decided, this because for calculating Operating rate system take the formula as below, whether the below formula is correct?
Actual quantity/ Planned quantity * variable price
If for a cost center, postings are happened in FI for 10000/- then how system calculate & segregate this?
if possible with an small example, when checked in KSS2 it shows the amount of postings from FI with cost elements.
But when we checked t.code KSII it was showing the some different Actual Activity and variable price. How system takes the Actual activity and Variable Price and is there any report to check this?
please guide me
Regards,
Sandeep
Edited by: sandeep jain jain on Nov 2, 2009 4:15 PM
Hi Paolo,
You were exactly right that it was rounding off.
But still am not able to get the calculation working for me.
In Cost Center Report Actual/ Plan it shows
Debit Assessment Cost Element 10000
Credit Machine Hour 458.16-
Credit labour Hour 124.96-
over/under Absorption 9,416.88
This are all actual cost.
When i run KSII the result is as below
Oty Object Name AUn Activity Qty Total Price Price(Fixed) PUnit
ATY MBX273/L1 Testing CCTR H 1.666 3,001.20 3,001.20 1
ATY MBX273/M1 Testing CCTR H 1.666 3,001.20 3,001.20 1
I am not getting how this value 3,001.20 is calculating.
Kindly help me to under stand this
Edited by: lolu jo on Oct 28, 2011 3:57 PM
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