Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

Ops i posted this in the wrong forum first time, this is the right place
This for all MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users, that have changed to the new MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250 mobo, if I have the chance to swap to the new board should I do so, or does this mobo have its fair share of problems?
Is the MSI K8N Platinum nForce3 250, a better board compared to the old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R? Not taking into account overclocking.
Like is the onboard sound the same or worse or better in your opinion? Is it any faster at stock? Are there any other advantages?
Thx Xe

I had a K8T Neo Fis2r at first. I got a K8N Neo because I believed my Blue Screens were a faulty K8T Neo. As it turned out, the Audigy2 I had in there was the problem, because I still got Blue Screens with the K8N Neo, and when I took out the audigy and used onboard my system ran stable.
I havent had any of the apparent keyboard controller problems, or ANY other problems with the K8N. My only instabilities have been the Audigy2's fault.
Havent tried overclocking on the K8N Neo yet, maybe a little down the road. As far as features go, the K8N has the hardware firewall on it (which I dont use) but apparently its "true" gigabit ethernet is better than the K8Ts. Dont ask me to clarify that, lol
btw Got my turtle beach Santa Cruz today and put it in my K8N Neo, crossing my fingers... =\

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MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R Users Group

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I created a user group for owners (or those who are thinking of buying) MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R motherboard. Join us if you can help or if you have any questions.
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MSI K8T NEO FIS2R No VGA help plz!

Hi, ive just purchased a new athlon 3000 64 cpu retail and an msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard, the specs and problem are below but plz bare in mind i am a system builder for the last 3 years i have tried alot of things to solve this.
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R MOBO
AMD 3000 64 RETAIL CPU
AMD RETAIL HSF
1024MB DDR333 SAMSUNG RAM
120 GIG WD HD
GALAXY GLACIER GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB
PIONEER 106 DVD WRITER
400 WATT PSU (TSUNAMI I THINK)
Anyway the problem is this when i put the system together and turned it on i dont get any vga the monitor just says NO SIGNAL and when i look at the graphics card the fan on it isnt spinning.
Yet i have my old setup which is as follows,
ASUS A7N8X DELUXE MOBO
AMD 3200XP BARTON
AMD HSF
1024MB DDR333 AMSUNG
120 GIG WD HD
GALAXY GLACIER GEFORCE 6800 GT 256MB
PIONEER 106 DVD WRITER
400 WATT PSU
Basically the same as above i just changed the cou and mobo now when the graphics card is in that system it works fine no problems as soon as i try it in the new a64 system it doesnt work the fan doesnt spin and nothing comes on screen, ive tried everything i know ive double and trebble checked connections and ive tried removing components and then trying it, no matter what the graphics wont work.
I figured the motherbaord must be faulty and am going to contact the place i got it from but it would be good if anyone here knows how to solve it if it isnt the motherboards fault.
thanks very much.
ic3man1999.

Thanks guys, huess what like an idiot i forgot to put the 4 pin 12v in :( doh
Anyway it works fine now, but i have high temps core centre says 56 degrees right now while im typing this ? is this accurate or am i in trouble ?
Oh yeah and everytime i load windows it says new hardware found ide channel then secondary ide channel then it says a problem occured during your new hardware installation and it calls the hardware HDC it says this twice aswell.
ANy help guys ?
thanks

[Athlon64] MSI K8T Neo FIS2R BIOS Update when? CnQ no workie!

The MSI K8T Neo FIS2R (MS-6702) hasn't had a BIOS update since 3-4-2005!
I put a Sempron 64 3000+ in my motherboard, and was very disappointed that it is recognized as an "AMD Unknown Processor". Sure, it works, but one of the reasons I bought it is in the hopes of getting AMD Cool n Quiet to work. However, apparently the AMD driver can't recognize the CPU due to the old BIOS on the motherboard.
Every other MSI skt 754 board supports Sempron E6 revision already. Why not the K8T Neo FIS2R? Where have all the MSI BIOS programmers gone? I have been waiting 2-months for a BIOS update to support the E6 Semprons. I have asked and begged MSI Tech Support. I am tempted to switch to ASUS or some other company that is actually timely with BIOS updates. Only reason I haven't yet, is this board is everything I want EXCEPT for Cool n Quiet not working. It's starting to look like there is no BIOS update in sight, so I am very disappointed.
Anyone here work for MSI can confirm there are no plans for a BIOS update? Because I don't want to wait around for something that's not going to happen.

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I thought the mods here are MSI staff... I was just kind of hoping there's MSI staff lurking here, seeing what people think of their products or seeing what people complain about.
No, pretty much C 'n Q is the only reason I'm disappointed, but it was something I was really set on getting to work since this is a server that's up 24/7, but isn't utilized but maybe 4hrs out of a given day. I could reduce frequency and voltage, but unlike C 'n Q, it won't automatically increase speed and voltage based on demand - which is something I want since although it's a server, I also use it as a regular PC as well.
I've even tried the 2.33 beta BIOS with no change, and even found a 5.52 BIOS in their BIOS testing directory. I guess that BIOS was for a different kind of 6702, although I had pulled out the peripheral modules with AMI's MMTOOL and they looked the same as the existing BIOS, but that BIOS killed my motherboard so it couldn't have been for a regular 6702. I had to desolder the BIOS chip with a heat gun, reprogram the old BIOS back on it with an EPROM programmer, and solder in a socket. I guess that shows my dedication to get C 'n Q working!

Msi k8t neo fis2r odd post issues

well, i went over to a friends house, pulled out his ram..put in in my computer..it posted and boot to windows..perfectly..
so then i go into the bios and up the voltage..so that i can put my old ram back in..it stopped responding when i updated the bios becuase it set the voltage back down to default..so..
i put my ram back in once the voltage is set to 2.75 v and it booted a few times perfectly..i unhooked everything and came home..well
now i try to boot the pc and once again it will not boot? is it possible that the cmos got cleared when i unplugged the pc???
i know my ram isnt bad..i ran it on a friends system while playing games for hours..this motherboard is driving me insane..someone really dropped the ball when they made these..so many issues with having to fool around with voltages etc..cant even get the damn system to post if the voltage isnt up and even then sometimes it seems to not want to ..its crazy..
i know none of my components are NOT broken because ive stresssed them all fully in other peoples computers..
if anyone has any clue as to how i can get this thing to post to get back in the bios plz reply..im at wits end
my system specs are
athlon 64 3000+
512mb mushkin special 2-2-2 ram (i will change the timings to the recommended slightly delayed timings but i have to actually get into the bios to make this possible)
msi k8t neo fis2r bios 1.4

Southmike is sooooooooo right on that one. I see a lot of folks running stuff on other computers with + results and then nothing on the Athlon64 - equipped systems. Well, I think it's O.K. to a certain point, at least to find out if an item is not defunct. But, most of the problems are RAM and PSU related. After that, I believe the BIOS is the biggest issue. And I think some of our forum readers don't actually understand the settings they mess with. I for one, do not fully understand a few of them myself! That is why it's important to make changes in BIOS one at a time.....if you are not as experienced as a lot of folks here at the forum are.

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R won't power-up

My MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R won't power up when I switch it on. All that happens is the fans "jolt" a few millimeters and that's it
Using an X-Pro 460w which does work as I have tested it on this PC
Any help would be greatly appreciated

I think I have found out the problem
Using my old Enermax (350) I was able to boot up the AMD 64 2800 every time but the PSU made this weird electrical sound - I think because it was being overloaded (I think as it doesn't make this sound when used with my XP 1800). I then reverted back to my new X-Pro (460w) and after a few attempts I managed to get the ram module and CPU powered... slowly adding more fans it became harder to boot and eventually the GPU fan wouldn't run once I plugged another fan in... I'm guessing this is because my PSU is too weak to power the juice guzzling AMD
I'll need to break the bank once again I suppose

Msi k8t neo fis2r problems part 3

sometimes when the computer is turned on it just turns the fans and leds on but doesnt boot up...
most of the time it loads up and i boot to the windows xp cd and i install the drivers for sata and then when it reaches the point of copying the files it will give me a bsod and say that there is a problem with the irql driver and then force me to shut the pc down..
sometimes it makes it past that and will begin to copy files onto the hard drive, like somehow the data is becoming corrupted..however it will start to say that the files cant copy randomly and it will allow me to retry..they will copy the 2nd time usually..i can keep hitting retry and it will usually go by..it gets to 30 something % and then crashes to bsod just giving me some random error..for some reason the files keep screwing up that go on the sata drive....I just replaced the old power supply that wasnt working with an antec true watt 430 watt power supply, so i know it isnt that..
i just cant figure out what the heck is going on..any help would be appreciated.my specs are
"IRQ NOT EQUAL OR LESS"
athlon 64 3000+ cpu
msi k8t neo fis2r motherboard
mushkin special cas 2.0 2-2-2-5 512 mb pc 3200
western digital 8mb cache 80 gb sata hard drive
sapphire radeon 9800 pro 128 mb 8x agp

fyi look an your cd sticker ity will show power, consumption, but they are way lower than you would think, hard drives,can be only 10 watts, less then some case lights , and fans, cd are similar.. your video, is the biggy somewhere between 90~150 watts..yikes .next to the cpu..and the mobo can use 50 or so (not sure about new mobos) not to mention the ram 1024 is @40 watts or so., dont forget about 25watts per pci card, not counting the sound card which can be double....
ergo the need for a big psu..
the combined total ratting on a psu is not the max number that the psu is rated, that is surge value.. so a 500 may only hold 400 sustained , and that will drop as the machine heats up, so in the end your 500 may onlyy pull 366 @50'c...

Motherboard Monitor settings for MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R

I'm new to motherboard monitor and there are no predefined settings available for the MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R.
Anyone help me with the appropriate settings to monitor temps and fans?

Lunchbox,
Yeah I can do that - but I'm not confident of the settings or readings. For example - the CPU temp Is only sort of correct if I set it to sensor Winbond 2 2N3904. But after displaying what I believe is correct for a few seconds it changes to something ridiculous like 7C. I've tried all the other board sensors listed and they either say my CPU temp is 118C or 7C. System temp seems to work, but again I'm not sure. Hence my post here.
It is also odd that CoreCenter and MBM disagree about a few things. Like the +12.00 rail Corecenter says 12.00v and MBM says 12.22V. Or Fan 1 that is easly 2X what corecenter says.
And if you run CoreCenter WHILE running MBM all kinds of wierdness happens - like CPU temp fluctutating wildly or CPU fan speed synchronizing and then not.
Plus clock speed is a consistent 2001 with CC and 1998 with MBM.
So I want someone who knows what they are doing to do the configs - clearly that's not me.

Will Gainward 6800GT fit my MSI K8T NEO FIS2R?

Horror picture on a ABIT NF7-S
I saw this picture and saw that the card i extremely long!
Anyone here on the forum that can guarantee that my Gainward 6800GT card (with a red gainward cooler) will fit on my MSI K8T NEO FIS2R?
MSI K8T NEO FIS2R
Please?

I think I have found out the problem
Using my old Enermax (350) I was able to boot up the AMD 64 2800 every time but the PSU made this weird electrical sound - I think because it was being overloaded (I think as it doesn't make this sound when used with my XP 1800). I then reverted back to my new X-Pro (460w) and after a few attempts I managed to get the ram module and CPU powered... slowly adding more fans it became harder to boot and eventually the GPU fan wouldn't run once I plugged another fan in... I'm guessing this is because my PSU is too weak to power the juice guzzling AMD
I'll need to break the bank once again I suppose

MSI K8t Neo FIS2R RAID Question

I've just put together my new system. If it weren't for this forum, I might not have succeeded. Thanks for all the info out there.
Currently, I'm running raid 0, using (2) raptor 74's. The next thing I want to do is mirror. I bought a 160 gig maxtor ata drive for this purpose. But, after seeing the table in the MSI raid manual, it looks like I have to use (2) drives the same size as the raptor 74's inorder to use the raid 0+1 configuration. Any help on this would be apreciated.
MSI K8t Neo FIS2R
Athlon 64 3200
Kingston (2) 512mg Hyper X DDR500
Western Digital 74 gig Raptors (2) raid 0
Nvidia Geforce Ti 4200 128mg graphics
shydragon

but mirror raid wont save you from oc crash's , virus, bad installs, acidently, deleteing or any useful recovery..it only protects from hd failure to mechanical or electrical malfunction.
you are far better off imagine the drives or mking backups, and using the drives as storage for that, you will come out ahead.
but if you still want raid 1, you can
partition the drives?
use the smaller ones for system restore , and internet cache, mp3's . for example
for rich performance freaks buy 2 more satas and raid them on the other chip
just a few ideas

Msi k8t neo fis2r wont post plz help

I recently updated my bios for the motherboard, and now I can't get the pc to post. Before I had the pc going but it kept getting gpfs and crashing to the desktop from games..
I was having problems with it not wanting to post before but I raised the voltage to my ram and fixed that, the problem is that when the bios got wiped from the upgrade it lowered the voltage on the ram..now i just cant get it to post at all..if anyone has any suggestions on how to get this powered up so i can change the voltage again please let me know
I am only using one ram chip...
my specs are
athlon 64 3000+
512mb mushkin special
sapphire radeon 9800 pro
msi k8t neo fis2r mboard
antec 430 watt 12v - 20a
i cant afford a new psu and i know this one is ok as my friend tested it in his identical system for 24 hours ..
my mboard just seems to refuse to post ..i upgraded my bios and the voltage dropped because the update sets the defaults back to default..
after i upgraded the bios, it posted once, i was in the bios and i saved some settings and restarted..i was going to go back and up the voltage on the ram again so that it would post (i had solved my problem similar to this earlier by upping the ram voltage to 2.75) but it was too late and after it shutdown it wouldnt turn back on
also, ive tried all 3 ram slots with the chip, and ive cleared the cmos with the jumper 3 times..

your complete specs may help .. if running two sticks of ram you could remove one stick ... you could also reset the bios using the clear CMOS jumper .. but without more detailed specs ppl will struggle to help you

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R - Which slot sound card?.

Hi all,
I have a MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R and was wondering which slot to put my sound card in?.
At the mo it's in pci slot 4 i only have 3/4and 5 availible becuase of my arctic cooler on my rad 9800 pro.
The sound card is on IRQ 19 sharing with the IEE1394 host controller, i dont use firewire so could i disable it in the bios?.
Cheers all.

Hi
Should not make any differance, don't worry about the IRQ, let the comp sort it out, it knows whats where, better than humans do.
Any probs, disable the onboard sound. maybe change PCI slot, but there should not be.
cheers
jocko

MSI K8T Neo FIS2R- Corsair Twinx XMS4000

Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?

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Originally posted by karinio
Two weeks ago I have bought one MSI K8T Neo FIS2R with an AMD Athlon64 3200+.So far I used the computer with one DIMM of 256MB DDR PC2100 memory. This morning I have installed in the motherboard a pair of CORSAIR TWINX XMS4000 which comprises of two DIMMs of 512MB DDR 500MHz memory.
The computer did never worked again. As soon as I have turned it on, although the whole system got power the screen was blank and the motherboard did not boot. Moreover, the D-Led system of the motherboard has all its leds red which according to the manual means that the processor is probably damaged.I have never overclocked my system and before install the memory it worked perfect. I have disconnected the whole computer but the problem still exists. Can you advise me what I have to do to fix it? What is the cause of the problem? Is there any way so that I can fix it?
Hi dude i had identical problem, bought i extra stick 512 400 ddr and the system wont start. Make sure your motheoard support the made of ram. In my case Asus did not support corsaire. Also it could be the slots which are damage.
bye

Msi K8T Neo-FIS2R built in 1394 shows up but doesn't work?

I have a msi K8T Neo-FIS2R, and the built in 1394 does not work. It shows up in windows but doesnt work when plugged in.
I have tried disabling and reenabling in the bios, and disabling almost all other things to eliminate an IRQ problem to no avail.
I have an audigy 2 ZS also which has a firewire port, which is working, but I'd like to have access to the mainboard's ports as well.
any suggestions?
Thanks
AMD A64 3400
thermaltake venus 12 heatsink.
2x512 mushkin lv2 pc 3500 bh-5
msi K8T Neo-FIS2R
western digital 120 gig SE HD with 8mb
soundblaster live audigy 2 ZS
32x liteon burner
Built by ati 9800XT
TV LEADTEK/DELUXE TV2000XP TV/FM R
LIAN LI pc-82 with window

Welcome
What bios version are you on?The latest on the site was supposed to fix this problem-the 1.6-but dunno if it did or not,flash it to latest then have a look.

MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R, BIOS flash???

I'm trying to flash my bios but i get this wrong message after restart: CMOS SETTINGS WRONG, if you have built sata raid array previously, go to "P20378 sata controller" set as raid. I've tried that but it dosn't help.......what should i do???
Motherboard: MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R
Harddrives 2 x S-ATA Western Digital 250 Gb, 2 x IDE Seagate 80 Gb

i used to get that almost every time i update BIOS. I forgot the fix, but we need to know as Tiresmoke said whether u r at all using the promise. if Via serials r enough for u (which in this case they r since u only hv 2 sata hd's) then just use these and see what happens.
did u also try to load bios defaults? i think i used to do this when i get that error msg

Calling all old MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R users

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