Camera file generator timeout

Time out came up on Camera File Generator
Hi
Recently I use Camera File Generator Version 2.1.1 to control a CamraLink camera through IMAQ PCI-1428. When I grab the image "Acquisition Timeout" message came up. I changed smaller image format, but it was still same. I succeed communication with this camera through another serial communication software. It seems camera works, but an image does not come up.
And one more thing, I just want to use a camera with default setting. I expect I do not need to send any serial command. Should I do some action ?
Thanks lots,
Kevin

Hi Burrito,
Sorry for late respond, Now I got an image after changed the camera setting and setting on IMAX. I can see an image on both of software. It seems camera was not recognized on IMAX. This was main reason. Thank you for your help.
Best,
Kevin

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I was trying to set up my camera with the frame grabber using camera file generator. My camera is a linescan camera, which is 1024x1 pixels.
My question is, in the camera file generator, I can choose to display maximum number of rows which could be any number I key in, for example, I can choose to display 1024x256 or 1024x800.So since my camera has only one line of pixels, where are all the other rows come from?How does it work?
Thanks a lot!

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When you create your icd file, the height value, will be the maximum number of lines you can accumulate.
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I suggest to set this value pretty high (10000 lines for instance) so that you are free to request a big image in your application.
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PCIe-1433 not showing 16bit x 2 taps as option in camera file generator

Trouble getting 16bit by 2 taps camera to display 16 bits. Instead, I get interleved columns of 16bits and 8bits, as if it is only doing 24bit. Camera file generator seems to configure it all correctly, oddly, it uses tap 1 and tap 3 instead of tap 1 and tap 2.
I noticed PCIE-1433 documentation doesn't list 2 taps by 16bit as an option,
http://www.ni.com/pdf/manuals/374001b.pdf
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Hi dre99gsx,
This seems like it could be caused by using the wrong camera file. I noticed you said that it's a two tap camera and it's using a different tap configuration than what is intended. Have you tried creating the camera file manually using our Camera File Generator (http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/14207)?
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I am a camera developer and am trying to integrate a couple of new cameralink cameras with the PCIe-1433 NI frame grabber. I have installed NI MAX 14.0 and version 3.0.0 of the Camera File Generator.
I am trying to build a new Camera File for our companies cameras.
The NI MAX shows the NI PCIe-1433 device when it launches.
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Hi mawillia,
The latest version of the IMAQ drivers is version 4.9, and it would show up where you said, under the Software tab in NI MAX. Do you have this latest version installed? If you like, feel free to expand out your software tab and take a picture of it and post it here.
Also, you are correct that the serial commands can be set in the camera file. Here is a link to our support page for the Camera File Generator: http://sine.ni.com/psp/app/doc/p/id/psp-723/lang/en
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What framegrabber specifications do I need to know to create my camera file?: http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/9B89C9FA43A6973A86257A62004658D5
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I am trying to use the Dalsa line-scan camera P4-CM-08K070-00-R together with the NI PCIe-1433 frame grabber in Labview.
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Hi uday
Thanks for the quick reply. Unfortunately, it did not bring me much further.
- I am able to load my camera file in MAX, but that does obviously not mean that there aren't any problems.
- I didn't know that MAX can automatically generate camera files. Where do I find this option?
- Yes, I also know what a timeout in general is. I made sure that the camera runs internally triggered, so it should send data all the time without waiting for a trigger from the frame grabber.
As a matter of fact; I got two steps forward and one back, when I tried to find that automatic camera file generation in MAX.
For a couple of times I could receive the test pattern from the camera; now I only get the following error when I try to snap an image: "Serial terminal string not found ..."
(See also the attached screen shots - the MAX error message is in German, but it has basically the same contents as the one in CFGen)
I wish I could tell what exactly I have done...
I am confused, because
- I wasn't aware that the image data transfer involves serial communication.
- the serial communication for setting parameters works flawless, and I am sure that I have set up the correct termination character in the camera file.
Any idea what this error message means exactly?
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CFGen - STS not found.png ‏30 KB
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Can I find camera files for PCIe-1429, working with Basler spL4096-70km line camera ?
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getting error if configuring with 4096 pixels,
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Hi Bruce,
This is Amitai from National Instruments Israel,
Allow me to enter this conversation.
Since you have a similar camera and working, I will be happy to get advises from you in order to help Sveta.
I have contacted Sveta today, and used remote desktop connection to try your suggestion and others.
We have used the Basler Vision Technologies spL4096-70km camera file -
http://sine.ni.com/apps/utf8/nipc.product?pid=11075&asid=1102
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You can also see in the file, that the "PCIe-1429 Full configuration Camera Link" is grayed out.
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Following your advise earlier in the post, we chose the "2 tap interlaced vertically" Orientation.
We had success when setting smaller Acquisition windows (for example 800x1024 or 512x2 see jpeg attachments) and when we tried to reach the camera attributes 4096x2 (http://www.baslerweb.com/products/sprint.html?model=253) we got an acquisition timeout notification.
see time-out.jpg attached.
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