Camera profile help

I own a Canon xsi and do not know how to get Canon camera profiles into the camera calibration profiles in the develop mode. Help????

If you're using the latest LR (2.4) they come automatically installed. You will only see them when you use RAW files (so not for jpegs) and the profiles will NOT have the camera name in their names. LR will automatically only show you profiles relevant to your camera.
For your camera you should see something like six different profiles.

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Camera Calibration Profiles - Help...?

I downloaded LR 2.0, then downloaded the beta camera profiles and the DNG Profile Editor. I ran the installers, then started LR. But the only Camera Calibration Profile available is "Embedded".
What am I missing here.....

They only work on raw files, not developed images.

Help me understand matrix profiles (DNG camera profiles)

I'm guessing it's a fairly simple question, so please bear with me as I'm working my way round trying to understand the DNG format:
After the de-bayering step, are DNG camera profiles pure 3-channel mathematical curves? I know Adobe DNG editor allows for adjustments from the Color-checker patches & there's some hue sliders etc, but do these build into RGB curves, or is it some kind of additional mild LUT (or something else) applied over the top?
Thanks!
Bert

read here how DNG (dcp) profiles are guiding (or rather how info there is being used by a code) the color transform in Adobe converters = http://wwwimages.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/photoshop/pdfs/dng_spec_1.4.0.0.p dfутили
also Sandy Mc... utility is useful to peek inside dpc profiles data = dcptool.sourceforge.net
may be also the following link = Dcp or Icc Profile?
and do a search for posting from Eric Chan (madmanchan) and participants like VitNovak ... here and also forums like LuLa

I would like to add a new Canon camera profile to the RAW interface

Hi, I would like to add a new Canon camera profile to the RAW interface.
I have recently installed the new camera profile 'Studio Portrait' which i download from here:
http://www.canon.co.jp/imaging/picturestyle/file/studio-portrait.html
When I open up a RAW files in Camera RAW, go to 'Camera Calibration', click on the drop down list called
'Camera Profile' I only see 'Adobe Standard, Faithful etc etc'.
My questions are, can i add the same camera profile i put in my camera, into a folder with in photoshop?
Or is photoshop reading the raw file and only seeing the default camera profiles?
If I could see the new camera profile listed it would help with work flow.
Best
JL-B
Please help, ive not had a good time waiting on the phone and trying to explain this to a live chat, hours have been wasted. Once i know the answer I can get back to the commission.

Are you following this
Apply a camera profile
To apply a camera profile, select it from the Camera Profile pop-up menu in the Camera Calibration tab of the Camera Raw dialog box. The Adobe Standard profile for a camera is named Adobe Standard. Camera Matching profiles include the prefix Camera in the profile name. The Camera Profile pop-up menu displays only profiles for your camera.
If the only profile in the Camera Profilemenu is Embedded, it means that you have selected a TIFF or JPEG image. Adobe Standard and Camera Matching profiles work only with raw images.
Note: If you have selected a raw file and Adobe Standardand Camera Matching profiles do not appear in the Camera Profilepop-up menu, download the latest Camera Raw update.

What does "Camera Profile" mean in the Camera Calibration tab in PSE 12?

I recently made the switch to edit exclusively in Photoshop Elements 12. I need help understanding what I need to select for the "Camera Profile" drop down in the Camera Calibration tab. I shoot with a Canon Mark II. Will the camera profile selection affect my prints at all? First, what does the camera profile mean? I go back and forth between Adobe Standard and Camera Standard. Sometimes I get truer color with Camera Standard than the Adobe Standard for my outside photos. I'm so confused as to which one I should be editing with. I just want to be sure this is not going to affect my prints because I just recently ordered a print from Millers and it was saturated, shadowing and skin had orange tone. I have never had a problem with my calibration and have always ordered from Millers with no problem. This is the first print I ordered after editing exclusively with PSE 12 so I'm wondering if I have setting wrong. Thanks so much!

Will the camera profile selection affect my prints at all?
It will affect prints to the same extent that it affects the monitor display, but no more than that. The differences that you see in color rendering when switching between profiles will be embodied in the jpg that you eventually make for sending to the print lab, but will not in itself cause the discrepancies you describe.

What is Adobe Standard and the other camera profiles?

OK, so i'm using my Canon 5d mark II, shooting RAW in the Neutral picture style. When I load the photo into Lightroom, at the bottom under Camera Calibration the program shows that by default it has loaded the photograph using the Adobe Standard camera profile. My question is: Is Lightroom taking the end result of the RAW data being shot with the Neutral picture style and loading it into Lightroom where it translates the photograph (RAW + Neutral picture style) using Adobe Standard? Or is Lightroom taking the photograph (RAW + Neutral picture style) and overriding the Neutral picture style setting in my camera and replacing it with another picture style it calls Adobe Standard?
Another and potentially easier to understand way of asking the question would be if I shot two photographs in RAW, one with the Neutral picture style set in my camera and one with the Landscape setting, and then loaded them into Lightroom using Adobe Standard camera profile, would the two photographs look any different?
Sorry, I am new to digital photography and all adobe programs, and would greatly appreciate the help of a veteran.

The photos would look exactly the same. The picture style that your camera is set on makes no difference to the raw image. That picture style is carried in your raw file as just a tag that tells Canon's raw converter how to interpret the data. Adobe doesn't use that information.
It's up to you to choose the profile that meets your artistic desires.
Hal

ACR 5.7 can see camera profiles in Bridge CS4 but not in Lightroom 2.7

When utilizing ACR5.7 through Bridge CS4 - the cameral profiles are easily applied for my .NEF files (Nikon D300) but when I am in Lightroom 2.7 the camera profiles are not available unless I convert the nef to DNG. I have tried to search the web and these forums but I am unable to locate the answer to my problem:
Why can't I see the camera profiles in Lightroom for my nef files when I can see them through Bridge.. (both running ACR 5.7)
Windows XP xp3
Lightroom 2.7
Bridge CS4
ACR 5.7
Nikon D300 profiles
Thanks for the help.
NGG

For those who might be reading this and having "odd" problems .. my solution was to delete my preferences file.
http://lightroomers.com/replacing-the-lightroom-preference-file/745/
This solved several odd issues I was seeing in my lightroom including the camera profiles..

Camera Profiles in LR 5.4 missing

When trying to use VSCO film presets today, I've decided to check Camera Profile inside Camera Calibration in Lightroom. To my surprise profile would never change whenever I applied a new preset. It consistently showed Adobe Standard profile. In the drop-down menu the only profiles that show are the default: Adobe Standard, Camera Faithful, Camera Landscape, Camera Neutral, Camera Portrait, Camera Standard.
I made sure I'm working on RAW files.
I remember that a moth ago I was still able to see the entire huge list of VSCO camera profiles in that drop-down menu.
The Presets menu continues to show presets correctly as before.
I've checked and all those Camera Profiles (.dcp files) are as before located in /Username/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles
Also a few of my XRite Passport calibration profiles located in that folder do not show in LR.
I even tried moving them to the main /Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles, but it didn't fix the problem.
In a couple of forums I've read that downloading and installing the newest Adobe DNG Converter 8.4 can reset some of the index files, but it didn't work for me.
I'd be grateful for any suggestions!
I'm using:
OSX 10.9.3
LR 5.4 CreativeCloud
Canon 5D Mark III

These profiles are in my main Library directory (non-user specific) inside Mac/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles/Camera in individual camera specific folders. They appear to belong to the default selection of camera profile inside LR - I did not install those. They do not appear inside LR application though. LR metadata in the library module recognizes my camera as it should, but is not loading 5DmkIII specific profiles.
Here are troubleshooting steps I've performed on those profiles from the default folder (not the VSCO profiles!):
1 - Moved Canon 5DmkIII profiles from Mac/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles/Camera/Canon EOS 5D Mark III folder to Mac/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles - didn't help
2 - Moved Canon 5DmkIII profiles from Mac/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles/Camera/Canon EOS 5D Mark III to rafaelswit/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles - didn't help either
This is how it looks in the default path. SamsungSSD is my main drive where OSX and all applications are installed.

Lightroom 4.3 Update and Camera Profiles.

Hello there!
First let me start by mentioning that im running Lightroom on a Mac OS X (10.8.2).
I was running v4.2 for a while until the v4.3 update came out about a week and a half ago.
I updated to v4.3 and everything was working fine until I noticed something today.
Im having problems with Camera Profiles. I do run the latest 2012 process.
The problem to be exact is when I open catalogs that were made with v4.2
I scroll down to Camera Profiles and here is what i get.
I have presets that automatically correspond to the "film" profiles below.
But ever since the upgrade it automatically goes to ACR 4.6 instead of the "film" profile.
I know for a fact that with v4.2 I only had these profiles:
Adobe Standard
Camera Landscape
Camera Neutral
Camera Portrait
Camera Standard
Camera Vivid
with the addition of the "film" profiles.
After updating, thats what I get when opening v4.2 catalogs.
Heres the weird part.
When i create a v4.3 catalog, all of those Camera Profiles disappear.
leaving only these:
Adobe Standard
Camera Landscape
Camera Neutral
Camera Portrait
Camera Standard
Camera Vivid
and nothing else.
When I looked at the Camera Profile folder, the ones I added are there but doesnt show up in Lightroom.
Mac HD > Library > Application Support > Adobe > CameraRaw > CameraProfiles
Is this a bug or is there a fix for this? Does v4.3 read Camera Profiles from another location?
If so please help!

I would suggest a two-step process:
1) The problem could be due to a corrupt Preference File. This file can go "funny" and is then responsible for all kinds of strange behavior of Lr. The remedy is replacing the Preference File.
Re-installing Lr, or upgrading Lr does not replace the Preference File since it is designed to stay intact during upgrades.
See here for where to find the Preference file for your OS: http://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/preference-file-locations-lightroo m-4.html
See here for how to go about Replacing the Preference File: http://lightroomers.com/replacing-the-lightroom-preference-file/745/
2) If that does not help: Un-install Lr and delete the downloaded Lr 4.3 file. The file might have become damaged during download.
Then download it again and install.

Image Change When Transferred from Lightroom to PS (?Camera Profile)

I am having difficulty that I think is related to Camera RAW that I hope I can get some help with.
I updated to v7.2 today, but I think the problem started today before the update. I get the image looking great in Lightroom and then either send to Edit in PS or to Open as Smart Object in PS (it doesn't matter, same results) and the image looks awful. If I open the smart object in PS it opens in Camera RAW and when I look at all the Camera RAW settings they are all exactly the same as the Lightroom 4.2 settings until I get down to the camera calibration settings. In Lightroom it is set to Process 2012 with Adobe Standard as the profile. In Camera RAW it is Process 2012 but the profile is simply listed as 'Matrix' with no other choices available in the drop down. In Lightroom, Adobe Standard and all the camera profiles are available for what I am shooting with, a Canon 5D MKII which I have used for years. As recently as a day or two ago I did not have this problem (though I never looked to see what the Camera Raw profile was when it was coming over to PS correctly), though I suspect it may be the source of the problem since all the other settings are identical
Any help would be very appreciated as I can no longer work with images until this is corrected.
Thanks very much,
Howard

Perhaps this is a clue to the problem? If I go to Program Data>Adobe>Camera RAW> Camera Profiles > there is a folder called Camera and another Adobe Standard. Within the Adobe Standard Folder are Adobe Standard files for multiple cameras including the Canon 5D MKIII, but inexplicably there is not one for the MKII. Likewise, the Camera folder contains folders labeled with different cameras. There is a folder for the Canon 5D MKIII that contains the profiles (neutral, landscape etc) but there is NO folder for the 5d MKII. What gives here? Is this the problem? If so how does one fix it?
Howard

Histogram inconsistencies with Camera profiles - Camera Raw

Hi,
I've been going nuts with this issue for a year now since Adobe released the camera profiles for Camera Raw. Something tells me this shouldn't be happening.
Well exposed pictures taken with the D300 show an inconsistent histogram in camera raw when using the Adobe camera profiles for the D300.
This is a shame because I prefer the colour rendering of the camera profiles to that of the adobe standard profile.
This is the problem:
With the D300 I get a correct histogram in Camera Raw only if I choose the ACR 4.4 or the Adobe Standard profile. By correct I mean with black and white points filled to the edge of the histogram.
If I choose the camera neutral, standard, portrait or vivid suddenly there's an empty area in the histogram's blacks. Effectively the black point has been shifted quite a bit and I need to push up the slider for blacks up to 30 or so to get the black point back to the right place. While with Adobe standard the blacks are correct at 0 or so. Check out the pics here below.
Is this normal behaviour, or is there something wrong in my settings?

Nice pic of brain Bill. Still, I would take it without any harsh light and rather use longer exposure with tripod. You can see some sort of light source in left bottom part of brain. I assume it was a flash gun or above by lamp. Then you may get much better result ;-)
Thanks. The shot was taken using the Nikon R1C1 closeup flash unit using the diffusers to help eliminate glare. With such specular sources, one must adjust the light sources carefully to avoid glare, but the only sure way to eliminate the glare is to use crossed polarizing filters. Still, the subject is short scale and one must set the white and black points.
Now, to discuss your posted shots. If anything, your posts confirm my initial assertion, since you are correcting post processing and not by changing exposure in the camera. The corrected images are from the same raw expsosures with postprocessing. By the way, if you post your screen shots as PNG, you will eliminate the artifacts around the text.
I put some links of images to explain my point since we still talk about something else. (cannot insert pics via adobe).
http://hajes.org/img/acr/cairngorn.jpg
Brilliant example of screwed up "I have been there" photography. Exposed not very well and at worst light possible. Must go there once again and fix my incompetence.
http://hajes.org/img/acr/cairngorn2.jpg
Cairngorn is short scale because of atmospheric haze. There is no way to correct that with in camera exposure, but you could have exposed more to the right. Nonetheless, you have captured the whole dynamic range of the scene and exposing to the right would only improve the signal:noise. You had to use the exposure and black slider to set the white and black points, which only confirms what I said in my previious posts.
somehow "fixed" previous image. just for fun and learn PS CS4.
http://hajes.org/img/acr/hrad.jpg
overexposed image at first glance by untrained eye.
Hrad is a high dynamic range scene with blown highlights. Your use of the exposure control to bring down the highlights darkens the rest of the image to an undesirable degree. It would have been better to use recovery to tame the highlights. A better approach might be to deveolp for the highlights and shadows separtely and merge the results as shown below. Again the correction is in postprocessing. There would be no way to do that with a camera exposure. The use of +1EV in ACR in HRAD3 only worsens the highlight clipping.
http://imagingpro.wordpress.com/2008/12/03/expanding-the-dynamic-range-of-a-single-raw-fil e/
http://hajes.org/img/acr/hrad2.jpg
same image with 1EV extra without of any detail loss. miracle of digital sensors.
http://hajes.org/img/acr/hrad3.jpg
final image. it is just for web, so no bother about burned sky...
http://hajes.org/img/acr/tunka.jpg
again, overexposed image at first glance by untrained eye. we don't care about clipped shell in the left middle of image. it is not main interest of pic...
http://hajes.org/img/acr/tunka2.jpg
..and we again get 0.50EV extra which corrects clipping.
I don't see any evidence of overexposure. The highlights are well short of clipping and the shot is grossly underexposed--not exposed sufficiently to the right. Nonetheless, the full dynamic range of the short scale scene has been captured and the shadows are well above clipping.
In case some will wonder about weird setting of ACR. It is just for web and I still don't know all tricks of PS. Furthermore, I prefer to spend time in nature rather than in front of computer.
The settings of ACR are indeed wierd. Thomas Knoll recommends setting the highlights with the expsoure slider and the midtones with brightness. An alternative way of doing this, introduced with Lightroom, would be to set the midtones with exposure and control the highlights with recovery. A black point setting would likely be required as well. Again, no way to do that with an in camera expsoure, validating my previous assertion.

Lightroom 2 camera profiles

I've tried to install the new camera profiles in LR2 in Windows Vista without any luck. I've followed the instructions and i've checked for the files on the recomended locations. All was right, except there were still no aditional profiles on the camera calibration tab.
The profiles were located at
C:\Program Data\Adobe\Camera Raw\Camera Profiles.
There were two folders there:
Adobe Standard beta 1
Camera beta 1
I could load the profiles in ACR, but not in LR. Weird.
After a lot of re-installing i tried to copy my camera profiles to the root folder, so i picked the specific profiles and copy them to C:\Program Data\Adobe\Camera Raw\Camera Profiles
And it worked!! LR now sees the profiles!!
Just thought i'd share this, in case someone has the same problem.
Cheers.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!! I was looking at a jpeg!! I thought it was a RAW file (Canon .CR2). I had shot a Macro and they are jpegs :-(
Now I have my profiles and the moment I changed it to my camera's profile, WOW, I finally have LR show me my files like I wanted!
Now, I STILL don't see the tiny camera with the icons at the top withthe other tools, like I saw in the Adobe page under Getting Started:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles
I really appreciate all of your help and apologize for overlooking this.
Gloria

Recovery Slider: Color Changes with Camera Profiles, not so much with ACR 4.4 Profile?

I'm sure there's a reason for this, and not necessarily a defect, but I have to ask:
The recovery slider: if I use the Recovery Slider on an image set to the ACR 4.4 camera calibration profile, this helps control my highlights without affecting the overall color/tint of the image. However, if an image is set to the Adobe Standard camera calibration profile (or any of the other camera profiles) and I use the Recovery Slider on that image, the affect on the image seems to be different: the highlights are also controlled, but not without a perceived effect on the color tint of the image. The color balance almost seems to slightly change. Particularly noticeable on skin tones. I'm working with 5D files, using Lightroom 2.3 on a Mac.
What's the reason for this? Anyone experience similar?
Thanks

This is a known "problem". It is caused by "hue twists" that are present in the camera-matching profiles and the new Adobe profiles. Several threads on this in the ACR forum:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3bc03c04.59b77b09
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.3bc03c04.59b783f8

Camera profiles not showing up in Camera Calibration

I would be very happy if someone can help me.
I have lightroom 2.7 + lightroom 3 beta installed + I have downloaded and installed camera profiles beta 2 and DNG profile editor from Adobe Labs.
Despite doing so both versions of lightroom only offer me the option of adobe standard and embedded.
What am I doing wrong?

You are doing nothing wrong. That is the expected behavior. The profile popup menu only shows the profiles for the camera you are using. For the M9 there is the Adobe Standard profile (made by Adobe) and the Embedded profile (made by Leica and embedded by the camera at the time of capture).
Eric

Tone Curve in Profile Help

Hey all,
Hoping the more talented tech gurus can help me out a bit here?
I have custom camera profiles for each of my cameras, so that my colour is consistent across bodies. They're all dual illuminant, some made in the old DNG profile editor, more recent ones in the Lightroom plug in from Xrite (Passport).
The colour is excellent, but I always find the tone to be too contrasty for my preference. When I look at the values on the step chart (greyscale patches) part of the McBeth checker they are not uniform / linear but rather already hold a contrast adding tone curve. What I do in Lightroom is to take the TAT tool in the curves panel and move these points per patch until they are almost "linear" again. In effect I apply a custom inverse S or reverse S to the image. I then save this curve per camera and invoke it on import setting along with the colour profile. I LOVE, LOVE the files I now get with this calibration, skin tones especially.
BUT
I now have my curve area of Lightroom being used essentially for calibration purposes, which robs me of it's use for creative purposes. Thus, I'd like to do this tonal adjustment at the profile stage, in the .dcp file to free me up to use the curve panel to suit my artistic vision.
SO
The question is how do I visually target the tone curve in DNG Editor (or passport) to match those which I have created in the curve panel now? I can eyeball it so they look similar, but it's a bit vague. Either that or a way to visually adjust the tone curve while viewing the grey swatches within the DNG editor?
The result should be the same as my custom camera profile plus my bespoke lightroom tone curve but all done in the .DCP file.
Am I missing something? Willing to be schooled always!
Many thanks if you made it this far.
(Note: I have posted this in LuLa too, so apologies to those who may frequent both)

Here's a Lightroom tone curve (saved):
<x:xmpmeta xmlns:x="adobe:ns:meta/" x:xmptk="Adobe XMP Core 5.5-c002 1.148022, 2012/07/15-18:06:45
">
<rdf:RDF xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#">
<rdf:Description rdf:about=""
xmlns:crs="http://ns.adobe.com/camera-raw-settings/1.0/"
   crs:Version="8.1"
   crs:ToneCurveName="Custom">
   <crs:ToneCurve>
<rdf:Seq>
<rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
<rdf:li>99, 92</rdf:li>
<rdf:li>166, 156</rdf:li>
<rdf:li>231, 223</rdf:li>
<rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
</rdf:Seq>
   </crs:ToneCurve>
</rdf:Description>
</rdf:RDF>
</x:xmpmeta>
and here's the same tone curve in a .dcpr file:
<dngclr:ToneCurve rdf:parseType="Resource">
    <dngclr:Edit0 rdf:parseType="Resource">
       <dngclr:X>0</dngclr:X>
       <dngclr:Y>0</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit0>
    <dngclr:Edit1 rdf:parseType="Resource">
       <dngclr:X>99</dngclr:X>
       <dngclr:Y>92</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit1>
    <dngclr:Edit2 rdf:parseType="Resource">
       <dngclr:X>166</dngclr:X>
       <dngclr:Y>156</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit2>
    <dngclr:Edit3 rdf:parseType="Resource">
       <dngclr:X>231</dngclr:X>
       <dngclr:Y>223</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit3>
    <dngclr:Edit4 rdf:parseType="Resource">
       <dngclr:X>255</dngclr:X>
       <dngclr:Y>255</dngclr:Y>
    </dngclr:Edit4>
</dngclr:ToneCurve>
If that's not enough to go on, do tell..

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