Camera profiles for native D80 modes

Hi to all,
I would like to know if there are the camera profiles (self-maded with DNG profile editor o similar) which simulate the native color mode of D80 (mode Ia, II and IIIa) because LR and ACR support only new color profiles from EXPEED chip (NATURAL, VIVID, ETC.).

Here is what I have for D90 camera profiles in the Camera\Nikon D90 and Adobe Standard folders under ProgramData with PS-CC and ACR 8.3 installed:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90>dir
Volume in drive C is C - Boot
Volume Serial Number is 26BE-4B1F
Directory of C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          .
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 1.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 2.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 3.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera Landscape.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Neutral.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Portrait.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Standard.dcp
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,096 Nikon D90 Camera Vivid.dcp
               8 File(s)        896,790 bytes
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Adobe Standard>dir *D90*
Volume in drive C is C - Boot
Volume Serial Number is 26BE-4B1F
Directory of C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Adobe Standard
03/18/2013 11:32 AM            55,838 Nikon D90 Adobe Standard.dcp
               1 File(s)         55,838 bytes
I believe these profiles can also come from installing the DNG Converter 8.3, so if the profiles don't seem to exist, then try downloading and installing the DNGC 8.3 from:
http://www.adobe.com/downloads/updates

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C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90>dir
Volume in drive C is C - Boot
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Directory of C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\Nikon D90
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          .
01/11/2014 02:51 PM    <DIR>          ..
03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 1.dcp
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03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,100 Nikon D90 Camera D2X Mode 3.dcp
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03/18/2013 11:32 AM           112,098 Nikon D90 Camera Standard.dcp
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               8 File(s)        896,790 bytes
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