Camera profiles in ACR ...

When we slide the saturation slider for a primary to the left end (completely desaturated position), does it mean that we move this primary to the white point on the chromaticity diagram? Thanks a lot.

I would think it only brings it to the exact neutral, the L axis with no a or b values, for whatever area of the image you are examining. Does that make sense?

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  • Loading Camera Profiles for ACR

    Hello All, I downloaded the camera profiles from Labs.Adobe.com, ran the setup which looks like it put the data in the "Settings" folder under the "Camera RAW" folder.
    When I go to Camera RAW and select Camera Profiles then Load, a dialog box opens looking for camera raw settings.xmp in the settings folder, however, the folder is empty.
    Where did I go wrong?
    Thanks for any help,
    Jan

    Captain1854 wrote:
    Where did I go wrong?
    First off, you need to post what version of Photoshop and Camera Raw you are using. Second, while you can indeed download the old "beta" DNG profiles, you may as well forget those and download the final shipping version which is part of the package for installing DNG Converter 5.3. Go to the DNG Product Page and download the 5.3 version-the DNG Profiles (the final release versions) are part of that install See: DNG Product Page
    Then I think you are confused on how to use the profiles...when properly installed and using Camera Raw 4.6 in CS3 or at least 5.2 in CS4, the DNG Profiles will show up under the Camera Calibration panel...only when loading a raw file–there are no profiles for JPEGS. Also, the number of profiles and their names will vary by camera. You can _NOT_ load profiles into Camera Raw from within Camera Raw...if you are using the flyout menu at the side, that's the wrong way of using them.
    You really need to do some reading...see the docs on Labs at the DNG PROFILES page scroll down and read the Getting Started section. If you want further help, post your system, ACR version and camera...

  • How does Adobe make their camera  profiles for ACR and Lightroom?

    I'm not interested in the proprietary algorithms , but I am curious as to the photographic mechanics and hardware tools used by  Adobe to make the various camera profiles as they differ markedly from the ones I make using the DNG Profile Editor.
    My methodology is to set an X-Rite 24 patch Color Checker target, light it evenly with electromic flash (with 0.1 stops from center to corners as mesured with a Sekonic L-758r Meter) and make a series of exposures bracketed in third of a stop increments around the meter reading in case the camera sensitivity differs from the meter's.
    I then process the raw files and convert them to the DNG format, select the best exposure and run it through the DNG Profile editor. My results differ from Adobe's generic profiles for that camera enough that that I don't thin kthe difference can be credited to the difference between a generic profile a specific camera.
    How do the different tools work in the DNG converter? Starting with the Options for "Base Tone Curve"? Is there a document a moderately color geeky person can understand that explains this?
    I thin kthe DNG Profile editor is a great and under usedtool. I wish more people knew about it.
    Thank you for your time and consideration.

    Someone who only eats sausage may not want to know how it's made.  Someone who creates things with food, a chef, a cook, or otherwise is thinking about a career in the food industry, might have a interest in such things.  Someone who is thinking of making sausage will want to know all the details.  Someone who is concerned with the public safety might want to know how sasauge is made.
    It would be nice for a sausage maker to give some hints about the process as compared to what each of us can do with the DNG Profile Editor and to the original poster's question, why are our profiles different from Adobe's?
    It is my experience that when I create a profile with the DNG Profile Editor, and then compute the color error for each of the 24 color patches of a CC24, using a program like Imatest, some colors are quite a bit off and some are very close, and the colors that are off, are not the same ones that are off when I compute the color error using one of the Adobe Standard or Camera Standard profiles.
    Is Adobe using more detailed and sophisticated color targets with hundreds of different colors, or if not, do the tools provide more feedback and allow more manual manipulation of the profile and so the differences are due to their judgement about which colors to make "right" and which ones to let have more error associated with them, that can be manipulated by hand instead of merely letting the DNG Profile Editor apparently distribute the error amongst the various colors with some sort of even-handed calculation.
    For example it is easy to imagine that someone tweaking a profile by hand with a live readout of the error of each of the colors plus an overall composite error, might put more emphasis on skin tones being right if they have a background in people photography, or more emphasis on bright colors being right if their experience is in textiles and the current trend in the US is bright colors--and a different emphasis when the trend is muted colors so there is cultrual bias and life-experience coloring a "standard" profile.
    In other words, how much of the difference between Adobe and our profiles are due to Adobe having different or better science, and how much of it is due to Adobe have different or better "artists" who decide what colors to make correct compared to others.

  • Cannot see ACR 5.3 update in the Camera Profiles on CS4

    I'm using CS4 on Windows Vista 64. I have tried the manual installation process multiple times before and after re installing CS4. I've tried the AUM with no results good or bad. I know there are two Camera Raw.8bi files that have to be installed in Vista 64 and I've been very careful to get both of the correct files to the correct destinations - I've gotten a lot of practice at this. There have been no error messages. One thing Bridge is doing now is that when I open an image, it opens it in Elements 7, which I upgraded from. When I close PSE7 and reopen the RAW file, it then opens in CS4. My big concern however is not seeing ACR 5.3 in my Camera Profiles. Any thoughts for a non-techie?

    Robert, I am having a similar problem with Elements 6, in my case I have installed the 8BI file on my desktop, and I can see all the options Jim describes in camera profile My camera is Nikon, so those are the options I should get. But on my new laptop, all I get in camera profiles is ACR 4.4. I originally downloaded the most recent camera raw update to the laptop, but when that didn't work, I copied the 8BI file from the desktop to the laptop with a memory stick, and I still get the same results - no options. Camera raw on the laptop does recognize my camera, and lists it at the bottom of the preview screen, but it does not populate the options in camera profile.
    I distrust the answer you got from FAQs, because my camera did not exist at the time ACR 4.4 was released, and it really does not explain why I can't get the same camera profile selections on the laptop as I do the desktop. Both are Dell, Vista 32. Both are PE 6. Both are the same camera, and now, the same 8BI file. And both show ACR 4.4, The 4.4 doesn't bother me, but I want the camera options on my laptop.

  • Camera Profile missing in ACR 6.7 (PS CS5)

    I have looked all over the place for a solution to this problem and so far can not find one.
    I am running Windows 7 64bit, PS CS5.
    I just noticed that my Nikon D90 camera profile is missing under the Camera Callibration area in Camera Raw (it had been there before). The only thing that shows up is ACR 4.6:
    I have tried reinstalling the ACR 6.7 plug in...didn't work.
    I really don't want to try to uninstall and reinstall Photoshop.
    Oh, I have also looked on my computer in my C drive and found the list of camer profiles...the D90 is not listed (in fact, there are only 8 Nikon cameras listed in my Adobe Standard folder).
    One more thing...I had CS4 installed originally. I have since uninstalled it. I'm not sure if the issue I am having has to do with that or a recent update.
    Adobe should really have a seperate file that you can unstall just for camera profiles.
    Like I said I have searched all over and have not found anything...I am  really hoping there's someone on here that can tell me how to get my  camera profile in there.

    I recently installed Windows 8.
    1. Can I get a ACR profiles for my Canon 1Ds Mk lll and my Sony RX 100?
    2. Can I install the DNG Converter on Windows 8? This OS isn't listed as here as one of those suitable. > http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=5389
    3. Noel, where are the equivalent locations on a Windows 8 machine? ProgramData doesn't exist, as far as I can see.
    Thanks.
    D.
    Edited:
    Ok. I found another Adobe download that said Windows 8 is compatible, so I installed the DNG Converter.
    However, no cameras are listed under Camera Profile in ACR.
    This is the case whether I load a Canon RAW file or a DNG conversion of a Canon file.
    Any idea how I can get the profiles to load?
    Thanks.
    D
    Message was edited by: Dinarius

  • Should i see same camera profiles in LR as i see in ACR?

    I use macintosh and OS 10.6.6
    I have found that i can see only the original camera profiles in ACR but can see eric chans's profiles in LR, in addition to the original camera profiles.
    I have searched ACR, PS, and LR fora, as well as adobe websites and cannot finder an answer clear to me.
    I have moved files between " /user/library/applicationsupport/adobe/camera raw/cameraprofiles", 
    and the "/library/applicationsupport/adobe/cameraraw/cameraprofiles" .
    I do not see the same profiles, with lightroom showing eric chan's profiles, but these are not available in ACR.
    I expect  some simple answer and am prepared for disparagement, but i need some smarter person's advice and help.
    thanks to any and all,
    vince

    thanks so much charlie.
    that does not seem to work here. but perhaps i need to try again and delete some preferences, etc.
    very grateful for your reply, which i think is probably the correct answer.
    vince

  • Camera Profiles gone in ACR 6.3 ?

    I updated a few days ago from ACR  6.2 to 6.3.
    In the Camera Calibration tab, the only profiles shown under "Camera Profile" are "ACR 4.4" & "ACR 4.3".
    The profiles I had before ("Camera Landscape", "Camera Portrait"..) are not there anymore
    How do I get those back for different bodies (Nikon D300, D700..° ?

    FYI, I have 63 megabytes in 676 files under: C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
    Keep in mind the ProgramData root folder is usually hidden on a modern system, so you may have to type in the path in the Explorer address bar.
    -Noel

  • Beta Camera Profiles installation question

    I downloaded Camera Raw 4.5 Plug in, which is needed for the beta Camera Profiles installation. CR 4.5 is definitely in the right place and working fine. According to Adobe FAQ, beta Camera Profiles belong in the Adobe folder in Camera Raw. I copy and quote here:
    " Where are the new profiles installed on my computer?
    On Mac OS X:
    /Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles "
    I do not have CR 4.5 in my Adobe folder, only in Plug ins. I do still have CR v 4 in the Adobe folder, but not v 4.5.
    My question is... does the beta version of Camera Profiles automatically put Camera Raw 4.5 in the Adobe folder, or do I need to do something to get CR 4.5 there in order to install the beta Camera Profiles ? I've already messed up on the download/installation of Camera Profiles by moving it into CR 4.5 the plug-in folder. When I realized my error, I have trashed that.
    Can someone give me some input here ? I'm clueless. This is not a BIG DEAL, as I'm getting along fine with CS3. I;m just curious to know how CR 4.5 gets in the Adobe folder>
    Thanks
    carolyn

    O.K. I understand about v 4.6. At the time I installed ACR 4.5, it was the version Adobe said was required. What has happened since then I was unaware of.
    Where I have the ACR 4.5 plug in installed is EXACTLY the path you describe, not the HOME folder, but in my HD. I can show a screen shot but don't think that works in this space. To follow my ACR4.5 plug in path, which is the same as you say above, here it is:
    HD/Library/App. Support / Adobe /Plugins/CS3/ File Formats / Camera Raw Plugin
    When I am in Bridge, the window shows Camera Raw v 4.5 at the top. So I must have it in the right place. I think you misread my original post as the path I copied there was copied from the Ådobe FAQ! link for the Camera Profiles, NOT for ACR. Sorry if I was unclear.
    I totally understand that the beta Camera Profiles and ACR do NOT reside in the same folder. ACR is in Plug ins, and the beta Camera Profiles go in the Adobe folder under Camera Raw. But I do NOT have ACR 4.5 in the Adobe folder so that I can put the profiles there. So what am I supposed to do ??

  • Love Lightroom Camera Profiles. Could we get more?

    Loving the Camera Profiles for Sony cameras in Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw. Would it be possible to add them for Sony A900, A850 and A700 in the next Lightroom and ACR updates? Thank you!

    Brian Smith Photo wrote:
    Many Sony users have asked why Lightroom and Adobe Camera Raw doesn't read Sony Creative Styles embedded in RAW - thwse camera profiles offer a very nice response to that question.
    ACR and LR don't support this capability with any camera model, and it's not likely to be added in the future. What Adobe has done is provide "emulations" of the "Camera" picture styles for some camera makes and models, which can be manually selected and applied. You can do a search here and at Photoshop Family Customer Community for posts on camera picture styles and add your vote, or even add a new request.
    The OEM's picture style "recipes" are designed to work specifically with the their raw converter and not ACR/LR. The Adobe Standard camera profile and ACR/LR Develop default settings are designed to make camera raw images look nearly identical regardless of camera make or model (i.e. "Standard").
    Brian Smith Photo wrote:
    Those are someone's custom profiles which are fine but they are not the Sony Creative Style profiles. The screenshot above shows Lightroom profiles for A7-series cameras.
    What I read at that site:
    I've photographed, under the direct sunlight, a 24 color GretagMacbeth / X-Rite table, then, after converting the RAW to DNG, I've created the standard color profiles with Adobe DNG Profile Editor. Starting from the standard profile and using as reference the "non standard" Nikon, Canon and Leica's profiles, I've created the creative profiles.
    Based on the procedure he used these camera profiles may as good or better than Adobe's. They are both emulations created using the Adobe DNG Profile Editor. I can also tell you that neither profile (Adobe's or his) will perfectly "match" the picture style of an in-camera JPEG or raw file processed with the OEMs raw converter. It may be close....but no cigar! I use a ColorChecker PassPort created profile with all my Canon DSLRs, which I find is a better "starting point" than Adobe Standard–YMMV. I also rarely if ever use the "Camera" profiles, which usually require using different Basic panel settings. The one exception is 'Camera Faithful,' which I sometimes use for revealing fine tonal and color gradations (i.e. flowers).

  • Where/how to obtain camera profiles for Adobe Camera Raw 7.3?

    Where can you get camera profiles for ACR?  And how do you load them into ACR?  Is the Sony A77 on that list?  Need help on this one.  Thanks.

    Adobe Standard is the only camera profile available for your camera, then, if that’s all you see. 
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  • Missing Camera Profiles

    When I tried to install the Camera Raw 5.6 update, I got the message Camera Raw not installed. I also have no camera profiles showing up within Lightroom. Can someone tell me what's going on and how to get Camera Raw installed on my Mac? Thanks.

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  • New camera profile not "appearing" in ACR, but does in Lightroom

    I recently created a camera profile for a Nikon D200, using an X-Rite Colorchecker chart photo and the Chart feature in the DNG Editor.  I exported the camera profile.  When I go to the Calibration tab in ACR 5.5, the new profile does not appear in the drop down list with the other camera profiles.  However, when I go to the Develop module in Lightroom 2.5, the new profile does appear in the drop down list there.
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    Hope someone has a suggestion for me.

    Your reminder about both Photoshop (main) and Bridge needing to be shut down for changes to take effect reminded me that I had Bridge set to "auto-start at log-in".  So I checked and it was still running (shown with the other hidden icons).  When I "shut it down" from the UI I had thought it was fully terminated.  So I completely shut Bridge down, restarted, and the new profile now appears.
    Thanks for the reminder/pointer in the right direction.

  • ACR 5.7 can see camera profiles in Bridge CS4 but not in Lightroom 2.7

    When utilizing ACR5.7 through Bridge CS4 - the cameral profiles are easily applied for my .NEF files (Nikon D300) but when I am in Lightroom 2.7 the camera profiles are not available unless I convert the nef to DNG.  I have tried to search the web and these forums but I am unable to locate the answer to my problem:
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    NGG

    For those who might be reading this and having "odd" problems .. my solution was to delete my preferences file.
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    ACR 4 allows users to select from a list of four device-independent colour spaces (Adobe RGB 1998, ColorMatch RGB, ProPhoto RGB and sRGB). Unlike other RAW processors, it does not allow selection of a custom camera profile. This capability is very useful when colour accuracy is of considerable importance (e.g. reproduction of art works). Does ACR 5 allow for selection of custom profiles?

    When this question had been asked in the past the answer has always been, "No, because these choices are all that you need." This may seem to be a rather close minded answer. But in reality the Prophoto color space encompasses everything else that is available. So the solution has been to do all of your work in ACR in Prophoto and send the image on to Photoshop in that color space. Then convert to the desired color space in Photoshop.

  • Recovery Slider: Color Changes with Camera Profiles, not so much with ACR 4.4 Profile?

    I'm sure there's a reason for this, and not necessarily a defect, but I have to ask:
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    This is a known "problem". It is caused by "hue twists" that are present in the camera-matching profiles and the new Adobe profiles. Several threads on this in the ACR forum:
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