Camera Profiles

I downloaded the camera profiles from the Adobe site and when I clicked on the file it appeared to be installing it. However, when I open Lightroom 2.3 and look at the camera profiles all I see are Adobe Standard (and beta 2) Camera Standard (and beta 2), Embedded and ACR 4.4. I was expecting to see various camera brands and even types of settings for that camera. I went to the folder that should have the profiles but it shows only a 159 kb file called index.dat. Have I installed these incorrectly or am I expecting something that is not there? I have a Pentax K20 so that is the profile I am looking for.

Glen, if you are viewing a raw file from your camera the Pentax K20 the only profiles you will see available are the profiles for that camera. The 4.4 profile was the first one created for the K20 since that was the version of Adobe Camera Raw that was current when support was first provided for that camera. Subsequently Adobe created updated profiles for all supported cameras and they were renamed Adobe Standard, at the same time they also created a special profile for some cameras and named them Camera Standard, Camera faithful etc. These profiles attempt to render a conversion of the raw file similar to the rendition created by the camera firmware.
So there is an Adobe Standard for each supported camera and for some privileged cameras, mainly Canon and Nikon, other profiles that attempt to provide a rendition close to what the camera firmware provides in various modes i.e faithful, vivid, landscape, portrait etc.
All the profiles for supported cameras are there in LR v2.3 but you cannot see them unless you are working with a raw file from the particular camera. So if you wish to see the profiles available for the Nikon D300 then you would have to obtain a raw file from a D300 (do a search and download one from the web).
I hope this clarifies the issue for you.

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Hi, I would like to add a new Canon camera profile to the RAW interface.
I have recently installed the new camera profile 'Studio Portrait' which i download from here:
http://www.canon.co.jp/imaging/picturestyle/file/studio-portrait.html
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Best
JL-B
Please help, ive not had a good time waiting on the phone and trying to explain this to a live chat, hours have been wasted. Once i know the answer I can get back to the commission.

Are you following this
Apply a camera profile
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Your reminder about both Photoshop (main) and Bridge needing to be shut down for changes to take effect reminded me that I had Bridge set to "auto-start at log-in". So I checked and it was still running (shown with the other hidden icons). When I "shut it down" from the UI I had thought it was fully terminated. So I completely shut Bridge down, restarted, and the new profile now appears.
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i have a Colour Checker ,with different shade of gray and different colors
i remember about a script or something like that
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Hello, I think that you search for https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5Fdngprofileeditor
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The LR installer should install all the profiles for all supported cameras.
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How does Adobe make their camera profiles for ACR and Lightroom?

I'm not interested in the proprietary algorithms , but I am curious as to the photographic mechanics and hardware tools used by Adobe to make the various camera profiles as they differ markedly from the ones I make using the DNG Profile Editor.
My methodology is to set an X-Rite 24 patch Color Checker target, light it evenly with electromic flash (with 0.1 stops from center to corners as mesured with a Sekonic L-758r Meter) and make a series of exposures bracketed in third of a stop increments around the meter reading in case the camera sensitivity differs from the meter's.
I then process the raw files and convert them to the DNG format, select the best exposure and run it through the DNG Profile editor. My results differ from Adobe's generic profiles for that camera enough that that I don't thin kthe difference can be credited to the difference between a generic profile a specific camera.
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Thank you for your time and consideration.

Someone who only eats sausage may not want to know how it's made. Someone who creates things with food, a chef, a cook, or otherwise is thinking about a career in the food industry, might have a interest in such things. Someone who is thinking of making sausage will want to know all the details. Someone who is concerned with the public safety might want to know how sasauge is made.
It would be nice for a sausage maker to give some hints about the process as compared to what each of us can do with the DNG Profile Editor and to the original poster's question, why are our profiles different from Adobe's?
It is my experience that when I create a profile with the DNG Profile Editor, and then compute the color error for each of the 24 color patches of a CC24, using a program like Imatest, some colors are quite a bit off and some are very close, and the colors that are off, are not the same ones that are off when I compute the color error using one of the Adobe Standard or Camera Standard profiles.
Is Adobe using more detailed and sophisticated color targets with hundreds of different colors, or if not, do the tools provide more feedback and allow more manual manipulation of the profile and so the differences are due to their judgement about which colors to make "right" and which ones to let have more error associated with them, that can be manipulated by hand instead of merely letting the DNG Profile Editor apparently distribute the error amongst the various colors with some sort of even-handed calculation.
For example it is easy to imagine that someone tweaking a profile by hand with a live readout of the error of each of the colors plus an overall composite error, might put more emphasis on skin tones being right if they have a background in people photography, or more emphasis on bright colors being right if their experience is in textiles and the current trend in the US is bright colors--and a different emphasis when the trend is muted colors so there is cultrual bias and life-experience coloring a "standard" profile.
In other words, how much of the difference between Adobe and our profiles are due to Adobe having different or better science, and how much of it is due to Adobe have different or better "artists" who decide what colors to make correct compared to others.

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