Camera raw 6.5 limiting crop size

When I load up a raw image in camera raw 6.5, CS5 - the cropping tool suddenly is not working correctly
It limits the size of the crop that I can do. I used to be able to surround the entire image with a crop and then edit it smaller on each of the sides as needed. But now, for some reason, it will not let me capture the entire image - only lets me highlight about 3/4 of it. This is true for all my raw images - even ones that previously had no problems
any ideas?

Updates are grayed out in photoshop - don't know why. Even removed the 1.0 directory in App Data which was supposed to bring it back to being non-gray - but it did not. So no, I can't even update.
However, I have two laptops - clones of eachother - the crop is still working perfectly on the other one. So, I thought maybe the copy with the crop problem had corruption - so I deactivated, removed and then reinstalled a fresh copy. But still the same problem.
When I go to crop - it will not let me crop the whole image - only about 3/4 the size of any image...?
Other ideas?
keg

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That is a nice statement for a Windows guy…
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Thanks, the fact is that it doesnt ignore the crop - it forces it and removes the data outside the crop. This is a known issue that Adobe do not seem to have addressed, and there seems to be a work-around in lightroom using a plug-in, but apparently not for ACR.
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Hey Guys,
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Hi,
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Hi Kglad.
I have looked at all of my settings both in Bridge and CS6 Photoshop regarding Camera Raw. I am at a loss how to set the crop tool in cm or inches as I once did - now the only option is to crop using ratios of 1:1 etc etc - This is infuriating as lots of my square crops I could set at 10" x 10'' specifically to print one to one to fit frame and mount size -
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Jeff Schewe wrote:
You need to make a use case argument that carries enough weight for the engineers to go into the sizing options and do additional work–which appearently you've not successfully done yet.
if enough users ask for it
You're advocating design by public popularity contest over technical leadership? Really? LOL, I mean no disrespect but that sounds like something out of Dilbert's world.
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RASouthworth wrote:
I've always read (and practiced) remaining at native camera res until edit completion, and then going thru an upsampling and sharpening phase for print. Why run it up early?
Ah, so now it becomes clear we're discussing something that goes against long-standing beliefs you have been running on.
1. No one is trying to force you to abandon anything you like to do and which nets you good results already.
2. No one is proposing anything radical here, but do always try to keep an open mind, because there might still be people in the world who are just as smart as those who have sold you books in the past.
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Good day!
I notice no difference to prior to 8.4.
But maybe the ACR Forum may be a better place for questions realted to ACR.
http://forums.adobe.com/community/cameraraw
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