Camera Raw 8.7.1 color issues
After the recent camera raw update to 8.7.1 I have noticed some pretty bad color shifts between camera raw and photoshop cs6. The colors in camera raw look very saturated and then when moving into photoshop the saturation shift is pretty dramatic. I never had these issues before the update. I have attached a screenshot illustrating the color issue. I am working on a very good monitor ( NEC PA 242W ) and it is color calibrated using NEC Spectraview calibration system. I have double checked my color setting in photoshop and camera raw to make sure I was viewing the same color space. I am just wondering if this is maybe a bug in the update and others are experiencing the same issues or if I am just missing something.
I would also add that I am using the Creative Suite CS6 and not CC. If that makes a difference.
Thanks ssprengel for the suggestions and running a side by side yourself. I went through all my settings and applied your suggestions and did a side by side each time. I even uninstalled the entire creative suite on my system then reinstalled and updated and I still get the same outcome. It was fine yesterday with the previous version of ACR. It seems like the updated version is not showing the image preview in any color space. When I switch the color space in the workflow options the histogram changes but it doesn't seem to affect the preview window. And yes the preview button was checked on it was just when I was using the screen grab tool in windows it took focus away from the application so that is why the settings appear grayed out. I have attached more screen grabs below illustrating all my settings. Also here is some system info if anyone out there has a similar setup and would be willing to test.
Adobe Photoshop Version: 13.0.1 (13.0.1.3 20131024.r.34 2013/10/24:21:00:00) x64
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1
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All the slack that's going to be cut on this has already been cut.
Hey, I could have just quietly dropped back to 7.0 and just have my own images be superior to those made by those using 7.1, but no - I chose to try to help Adobe by pointing out a problem to them here.
When I reported this problem during the beta, I was clearly ignored. When I reported it again after the release, I was argued-with.
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I don't need nor expect appreciation, but I had thought I might have earned enough respect around here that Adobe's first response wouldn't be "choose different settings, stupid".
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Adobe's dropping quality standards are something I find myself wanting less and less to be associated with each passing day.
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There's a difference between leadership and "too big to fail" thinking.
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How can i create a camera profile with camera raw?
Hi
how can i create a camera profile with camera raw without x-rite or other third software?
i have a Colour Checker ,with different shade of gray and different colors
i remember about a script or something like that
i google a lot , but without luck
can i create my camera raw profile using a color checker with photoshop acr ?
i'm not sure but this should be the script http://simon.tindemans.eu/tools/acrcalibrator , right?
but i don't know how use it
is there a tutorial ? maybe a video to create a profile with camera raw
thanks
greetingsHello, I think that you search for https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5Fdngprofileeditor
Here is a PDF from adobe about it: http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/photoshop/pdfs/cs6/ DNGProfile_EditorDocumentation.pdf
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Camera RAW and Elements Hang during Thumbnail Generation...
Ever since I upgraded to the newest version of Camera Raw, I have been having issues with Photoshop Elements hanging while automatically generating thumbnails, anyone else notice this issue?
Hang is not quite the right description... So I import a batch of pictures and PSE starts processing the files ("Generating Thumbnails" is in the tool bar at the bottom). After a few images are processed, it just stops. If I try to force an update of the thumbnail ("Update Thumbnail" option under the Edit menu), a broken image just come back. No mater what I do, it just sits there and will not resolve the thumbnail issue until I close out PSE and go into task manager and make sure that the task is killed.
On the other hand, while I can not get the thumbnails generated, I can go into the Editor with a raw image and it opens in Camera Raw without any problems.
Anyone else having similar issues? Know anything to try?
* Yes I have the most recent version of Camera Raw. When I downgrade to an older version of Camera Raw, the issue seems to go away.
* I can not use the old version all the time because I have a Nikon D300, which is only supported in the newest version. I confirmed the working of things with some of my D200 files.
* I am using Photoshop Elements 6.0, mainly for organization of all my images because I take a lot of them.
* I am doing this on a Windows XP x64 machine
* Based on a post someplace, I did check that my default printer on my machine is set to a printer that is always on the machine (PDF writer) and not a network printer/printer that has been disconnected.
Thank you for any help/suggestions that anyone can give me...
-MattHave you tried the Elements forum?
Not many visitors here have Elements, mostly PSCS and Bridge.
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Windows Vista-64, CS2 Photoshop and Illustrator. CS2 works well for what I do... don't need to update yet. Need to add Canon 5D Mark2. When try to open Raw files, get error message: Photoshop says it can't complete the request because it isn't the right kind of document. I believe this means that the camera is not recognized. Current DNG Converter is 3.7. Would like to add Raw support for all newer cameras, so able to work with files from virtually any customer.
I use camera raw to make preliminary color/brightness/contrast adjustments then save as 16-bit RGB file... then final adjustments in Photoshop. If I can add (for example) DNG Converter 8.2, to simply allow the CR2 image to open, then I don't need any other features. What I gain be upgrading to CS6 is additional functionality in Photoshop... no doubt I will be very glad when I do, but meanwhile I only need camera raw as a preliminary step in my workflow.
Not brain surgery... whatever additional functionality is available in Canon 5d mark 2 that is not in Canon 5d is unnecessary for my purposes now. Is there a reason that Adobe would not allow adding 5d mk2 (even if not all functionality is enabled)?
Ideally, I would hope to download DNG Converter 8.2, install it in my Photoshop CS2, and continue with my normal workflow process. Adobe could easily create a warning that "some functionality provided in certain newer camera files is not available, recommend upgrading to CS6." Just makes sense to support users as long as possible rather than force the upgrade. -
Bridge CS6 no inicia camera raw
hola, tras el cambio del sistema operativo de windos xp a windows 7 (no lo hice yo, no se como reinstalaron los programas), Bridge dejó de abrir camera raw y ajustes de color de la suite, arroja un error que dice que "la aplicacion bridge principal no está activada" consulté en el foro y recomiendan reinstalar pero primero desactivar la suite y verifiqué que photoshop se encontrara activado, y me aparece deshabilitada toda la parte de activar, desactivar la aplicación, asi que no se que hacer porque para desinstalar la suite hay que desactivarla primero. Gracias
Veo aqui dos problemas, uno en Bridge que no reconoce o encuentra Photoshop,
y otro de que en Photoshop tienes en gris, no operativa, la parte del menu de Ayuda de Desactivar.
Lo primero que creo deberías hacer es intentar enterarte de cómo migraron los programas a Windows 7,
Si tienes instalados otros programas de la Suite CS6, tampoco en ninguno de ellos puedes desactivar la Suite desde el comando en Ayuda?
(A veces tarda en conectar con servidores de Adobe, comprueba también que tengas una conexión activa a Internet)
Respecto A Bridge, mira si en las Preferencias (Ctrl+K) en Asociación de tipos de Archivos, aparece o puedes asignar Adobe Bridge a varios formatos. -
Is it possible to do gradient-based changes between pictures in Camera RAW?
Say I have 10 pictures. The C-RAW setting for 1 and 10 are different. Is it possible to change the remaining pictures, 2-9, as a gradient between the settings of 1 and 10?
Thanks in advanceIf the photos were already frames of a video then video editor can do transitions which include brightening to white but you’re talking about individual photos.
Assuming a Photoshop script (not recorded action, but a hand-coded one via the extend-a-script toolkit) can parse a number out of a particular picture’s filename, if the filenames of the photos were in an increasing order then there is probably some way to apply a numeric transformation of the filename number to a varying brightness value that is applied to a set of raws selected in Bridge, but I have never written such scripts so can’t really give any more specifics about your requested task.
I am vaguely familiar with Photoshop scripts from a long-since obsolete site hosting the ACR Calibrator script that would operate on a raw photo of the color-checker target and compute color adjustments for camera raw to optimize those colors. If you are a programmer familiar with JavaScript then this might be enough information to write your own brightening script:
http://www.fors.net/chromoholics/
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