Camera raw and lightroom 4 problem

In Lightroom 4, How do I open camera raw when I select to edit in photoshop

Hi,
What version of photoshop are you using?
One way is to use Edit In>Open as Smart Object in Photoshop and then double click
on the smart object thumbnail in the layers panel to open the photo into camera raw.

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1. I'm shouting because you don't seem to be hearing me when I'm speaking normally.
I (and others) are hearing. And we are offering what we can. You're
just not accepting it, in the spirit given, even if it's not what you
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2. I DO want to open CR. What I'm trying to accomplish is NOT to edit several pictures at once, but to open CR from Lightroom.
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>I've been doing all week). I'm not trying to be hardheaded, I just like my workflow the way it is, and I made that clear in the
>question to specifically avoid people coming around and telling me "oh but you can do this from LR". I don't care. I don't WANT to
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Yes, we all got your preference (repeatedly). What you don't seem to
get is the fact that - even if you can't get what you want (i.e.,
using CR), you can still edit multiple pictures. Isn't doing that
the most important element? That you get your photos to look how
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than you first preference.
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Or would you simply have abandoned your images, since you couldn't get
your first preference (CR) to work the way you wanted?
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>you open your photos from LR into CR" or "you can't do that anymore" is just here for attention, not to help me. I would
>understand and appreciate the impulse to show me a new workflow if I hadn't SPECIFICALLY SAID IN MY QUESTION NOT TO
>DO THAT.
>
How can you not understand how frustrating that is?
I can. I can also understand how you sound, when you didn't get what
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Regardless, others have given you insight into how to let you use CR
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