Camera raw editor is, suddenly, beyond slow.

While retouching in ACR (PS-CC) with the spot healing brush, ACR doesn't respond for 10 to 15 seconds while using the Spot Removal Brush and/or zooming in or out on the image. This just recently started happening and no changes have been made to my system or drivers. I have been getting the "Cannot complete request due to a system error" message...this message leaves alot to the imagination!
I am on a Win 7Pro 64 bit system w/16gigs of RAM, 2gigs of VRAM with ample scratch disk space. I have the dedicated RAM setting in prefs set to 70%. I'm using an internal drive (1TB) dedicated to PS as a scratch disk. By contrast, the Camera RAW Filter works fine! I have experienced this same problem regardless of the file size. A 67 meg file responds as slowly as a 474 meg file. It doesn't matter whether I am working on a .dng, .nef, or editing a Smart Object. Also, the "Open as Smart Object" button is gone, even with that function checked in the ACR settings.
Should I reinstall Bridge? If so, is there any way to save the "collections" links. I have three collections I am working on and would rather not have to create them again after a new Bridge install. Is there a way to just reinstalll the ACR editor?

You would need to update to PSE 12, or just keep using the DNG converter. Your camera requires ACR 8.4, which isn't compatible with PSE 11. It's also not compatible with PSE 12 if you are running Vista or XP.

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SP:
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viveredesign wrote:
Does anyone know how to go back to CR 7.1?
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C:\TEMP>dir "c:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS6\File Formats"
Volume in drive C is C - NoelC4 SSD
Volume Serial Number is 00ED-C11E
Directory of c:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS6\File Formats
02/09/2012 05:02 AM        23,220,080 Camera Raw.8bi
02/09/2012 05:02 AM        23,220,080 Camera Raw.8bi_7.0
05/16/2012 11:05 AM        24,639,896 Camera Raw.8bi_7.1
04/25/2012 01:25 AM        23,401,328 Camera Raw.8bi_7.1RC
09/19/2012 03:15 PM        23,786,584 Camera Raw.8bi_7.2
08/28/2012 12:11 AM        23,777,984 Camera Raw.8bi_7.2RC
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Directory of c:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Plug-Ins\CS6\File Formats
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02/09/2012 04:20 AM        20,904,304 Camera Raw.8bi_7.0
05/16/2012 10:37 AM        22,285,208 Camera Raw.8bi_7.1
04/25/2012 12:22 AM        21,053,808 Camera Raw.8bi_7.1RC
09/19/2012 03:15 PM        21,372,504 Camera Raw.8bi_7.2
08/28/2012 12:13 AM        21,364,416 Camera Raw.8bi_7.2RC
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To report back and to help any other user who may experience a similar problem:-
I have replaced Camera RAW 5.5. with Camera RAW 5.6 and still the Elements RAW Editor is showing Camera RAW 4.4 (as explained in my other postings).
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