Camera Raw & the Recovery Slider

Hi Folks ....
1st time on the forum. I have recently upgraded to PSCC and I note when I go into Camera Raw that the "Recovery Slider " has disappeared. This however only happens on certain images that` have taken since the upgrade; on images that were shot before the upgrade i still get the Recovery Slider. I am using Camera Raw 8.7.1.
Anyone has similar problems and any ideas how to resolve it.
Thanks
George

PSE 11 has a new 2012 raw engine but you can switch between the old and the new. In the camera raw dialog click on the camera icon. Then change Process to 2010. Then go back to the basic tab.

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