Camera raw vs Lightroom

Are Lightroom and Camera Raw synonymous? I have read a wonderful book on using Camera Raw and want to know if the tips in the book work in Lightroom?

> I have read a wonderful book on using Camera Raw and want to know if the tips in the book work in Lightroom?
Only with respect to Lr's development module, and that would heavily depend on which versions you're speaking of.
Even then, Lr is much more than its development module and offers a much different workflow, while the text about ACR is more about the Bridge-ACR-Ps workflow.
The Lr forum is here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/2.0/lightroom_2_help.pdf
More Lr help available here:
http://www.adobe.com/designcenter/photoshoplightroom/
HTH :)

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How do I install the RC updates to my PS CC, camera raw and Lightroom? I have downloaded the correct versions from the Lab site but I still can't open my Nikon D-610 RAW files. The site says follow on screen instructions but I have not found any. Help please.

Please ensure that for CC you have downloaded ACR 8.3 - CC:
http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/cameraraw8-3-cc.html
Please extract the downloaded .zip file to Desktop and then run .exe file.
After successful installation try opening D610 files, This should work.
Regards,
Ashutosh

How do I get the latest camera raw for Lightroom 4.2?

How do I get the latest camera raw for Lightroom 4.2?

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Mylenium

Are there new updates for camera raw for Lightroom 4, or only for Lightroom 5, as in 5.3 ?

Are there new updates for camera raw for Lightroom 4, or only for Lightroom 5, as in 5.3 ?

There will be no further camera support updates for Lightroom 4 beyond what is already listed in this table.
http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html
Only current versions of Lightroom (currently Lightroom 5.3) will have further camera support added.
If you need to work with Raw files from new cameras you'll either have to upgrade to Lightroom 5 or join the Photoshop Photography Program (to get PC CC + LR5 + extras) or convert to DNG using Adobe's free DNG converter.

Two questions about Camera Raw and Lightroom

I am now shooting in RAW image format only and cataloging those images into Lightroom.
My first question is: How do I open an image in Camera Raw from Lightroom? When I right click on an image in Lightroom it gives me a choice to edit in > Photoshop, but does not offer the choice of editing in Camera Raw. In fact, when I go outside of Lightroom and just double-click on one of those RAW images, it opens in Photoshop. What is going on? Before I installed Lightroom, double-clicking on a RAW file would cause it to open in Camera RAW.
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does. Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom? I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Pleas set me straight on this.
Thank You,
Ken

Your second question:
My second question is: Lightroom seems to have all of the same controls over processing a RAW image as the Camera Raw plug-in does.
Answers your first. Lightroom and ACR share code, so the rendering you get from Lightroom with the same settings is exactly the same as in ACR. What happens is that when you say "edit in Photoshop", ACR gets called by Lightroom and the Develop settings get passed along. ACR then renders the RAW with those settings and opens it in Photoshop. So, because you already have a working interface to the settings, there is no point in showing them to you again.
Does that mean I no longer need to open images in Camera Raw? Should I just do all of my adjustments inside of Lightroom?
That depends on your workflow. I no longer open any images in ACR directly as Lightroom provides a more effective interface in my opinion. Other people I'm sure prefer the Bridge/ACR approach.
I take it that the sidecar xmp file is the same whether modified in Lightroom or in Camera Raw.
Lightroom does not modify the sidecars by default. All edits are stored in the database. This allows you to have virtual copies with different Develop settings and more tricks like that. You can have Lightroom write out xmp sidecars by choosing "save metadata to file" from the metadata menu in Library or by turning on automatic xmp file generation in preferences. There is usually no real point to doing that however as the "edit in Photoshop" route works just fine. It's only really useful when you have a mixed workflow that still uses Bridge. If you share images with others, you're better off exporting dngs, or exporting subsets of images as catalogs with the images included.

Newly supported camera RAW for Lightroom v2.1

CANON EOS "50D" should be included as newly supported camera RAW as soon as possible. Which has been already on sale since 27th September.

If you want any reaction, post in the Camera Raw or Lightroom forums.

Is the Fujifilm X100T compatible with Camera Raw and Lightroom?

Is the Fujifilm X100T compatible with Camera Raw and Lightroom?
I see that the X100 and the X100s are compatible. Nothing about the T model.

https://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?q=x100t&place=%2Fplaces%2F1383621&depth=ALL

Camera Raw vs Lightroom Color Spaces

I photographed RAW image of a Gregtag color target with my Nikon D300 and opened it in camera raw in the ProPhoto Color space and adjusted the develop sliders so that the tone squares on the bottom row matched the ProPhoto values, (e.g approx 238,189,144,103,66,37) and ran the Robert Fors calibration script.
So far so good. I have read that all one needs to do is use the same settings in Lightroom. But when I opened the exact same RAW file in Lightroom and use the exact same develop and calibration settings that I used in ACR, it gives different values for the tone squares. And in fact the values are almost exactly the values for Adobe RGB (e.g. approx 242,200,159,121,84,53). And when I open that file in Photoshop from Lightroom using the ProPhoto color space option the value stay at the same Adobe RGB levels within the ProPhoto color space.
What am I missing/doing wrong?

the values in lightroom are not based on prophotoRGB, but on a prophotoRGB-derived space with the same primaries but with a sRGB tone curve. Since adobeRGB has almost the same tonecurve as sRGB, your values came out close. Bottomline is that the values do not correspond to the ppRGB values in ACR.

Can't open photos in Camera Raw from Lightroom

Hi!
I used to open my (RAW) photos from Lightroom (2) into Camera Raw - it did it automatically when I clicked "edit in photoshop". Now it doesn't work anymore, and I have no idea why - it opens the pictures directly into Photoshop (CS4).
However, it works from the finder and from Bridge. Any idea what I should do to get that functionality back? I know some of you will say I should just develop my RAWs into LR, but I prefer Camera Raw and would love to get that option back.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

1. I'm shouting because you don't seem to be hearing me when I'm speaking normally.
I (and others) are hearing. And we are offering what we can. You're
just not accepting it, in the spirit given, even if it's not what you
had hoped to hear.
2. I DO want to open CR. What I'm trying to accomplish is NOT to edit several pictures at once, but to open CR from Lightroom.
So ... you don't really care about editing multiple pictures; you only
care about using CR?
Even if I can edit multiple photos in LR, I will continue to use CR, by opening my pictures from the finder or from Bridge (which
>I've been doing all week). I'm not trying to be hardheaded, I just like my workflow the way it is, and I made that clear in the
>question to specifically avoid people coming around and telling me "oh but you can do this from LR". I don't care. I don't WANT to
>do it from LR. Otherwise my question would have been "how do I do this from LR"!!
Yes, we all got your preference (repeatedly). What you don't seem to
get is the fact that - even if you can't get what you want (i.e.,
using CR), you can still edit multiple pictures. Isn't doing that
the most important element? That you get your photos to look how
want/need them? Or your client wants/needs them, whichever? Or is the
most important thing to use a specific program?
Having a fallback plan to accomplish what you need (i.e., editing
multiple pictures) is key. Any fallback plan will be more unpleasant
than you first preference.
Suppose the answer had been "Nope; no way to do that using CR. None at
all" ... would you then not have edited those photos some other way?
Or would you simply have abandoned your images, since you couldn't get
your first preference (CR) to work the way you wanted?
My question was clearly "how do I open my files from LR into CR". Anybody who's responding anything else than "this is how
>you open your photos from LR into CR" or "you can't do that anymore" is just here for attention, not to help me. I would
>understand and appreciate the impulse to show me a new workflow if I hadn't SPECIFICALLY SAID IN MY QUESTION NOT TO
>DO THAT.
>
How can you not understand how frustrating that is?
I can. I can also understand how you sound, when you didn't get what
exactly you wanted, which you can't seem to understand.
Regardless, others have given you insight into how to let you use CR
(or other areas to explore, anyway), which (according to you) is what
you care about. So good luck with that, and I hope you find a final
solution that makes you happy. CR is an amazing program.
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http://phtshp.us/10utPuk
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Moving the discussion to PS Forums

Compatibilité Camera Raw 8 + LightRoom 5 + PHotoshop CS6

Bonjour,
Système Mac Os X 10.8.5
Nouvel ordinateur Imac 27 /3,5 GHz / 16 go RAM
Problème:
À l’achat de ce nouvel ordinateur, le technicien a réinstallé mes principaux logiciels dont LightRoom 5 et Photoshop CS6 extended.
Il a fait la mise à jour de ces logiciels pour passer de :
LightRoom 5 à 5,3
Cs6 13.0.6.64
et surtout Cameraw Raw 8.3.0.141
Depuis ça ne va plus entre ces 3 logiciels.
Depuis Bridge Cs6, cameraw Raw ouvre tous le fichiers raw (CR2) seulement si ils n’ont pas été retouchés dans LightRoom.
Depuis LightRoom,les fichiers dng ou CR2 s’ouvrent dans Photoshop CS6 (via photo-modifier dans) seulement si ils n’ont pas de corrections Lightroom, parfois avec des corrections mineures, parfois ils s’ouvrent mais sans les corrections.
J’ai l’impression que le problème vient de Camera Raw (??)
Est-il possible de réinstaller Camera Raw 7.3 ?
Merci AlmaLucie

Hi
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How to go to Camera Raw from Lightroom

Using Photoshop/Lightroom CC - Windows 7
Is there some way to open an image in Camera Raw directly from Lightroom?
Thanks,
RzzB

From LR, right click and choose Open in Photoshop as Smart Object. You can then double click the smart object which launches ACR. Obviously this leaves you with a TIF file.
Alternatively, use Bridge. Afterwards, in LR, you can run Metadata > Read Metadata from File. This brings your brush editing results into LR, though you won't be able to edit the brush edit.

Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom?

Can I use Adobe Camera RAW in conjunction with Lightroom?

LR can send an image (or images) from LR to Photoshop by rendering them in ACR.
Sure, it can subcontract the job and passing images to HDR within PS is an Adobe-scripted example of that. However it is AFAICT an arbitrary design decision, that it must be ACR which performs the conversion in these interactions; rather than (as various third-party utilities already do) getting LR to do this part via external files.
IOW, it is only on the basis that ACR is now expected to do, what we already know LR has the ability to do, that version incompatibility arises as a problem.
Let me explain: say I want to blend bracketed exposures together. I have a current version of LR but an older version of PS. The "Edit in.." options are therefore constrained; I cannot, as I could have done with say LR3.x and the same PS version, pass a bunch of images directly.
However, I do have the LR "plugin" (potentially misleading terminology IMO) LR/Enfuse installed. This lets me seamlessly select a bunch of images, interact with external processing which merges these into a single new image (in this case the interaction precedes the making of the rendered copies, but this could be in another order), and then view a resulting image auto-imported into the right place in my LR Catalog; and know that the extra intermediate files which this process requires (as the PS method does not) have been deleted for me.
This is functionally different but in its outcome, equivalent to what using Photomerge would have got me. The difference is that ACR incompatibility has been simply circumvented.
Might there not be an argument (inducements to upgrade PS for other reasons left aside) for Adobe facilitating the use of otherwise perfectly usable older PS versions together with LR, by this kind of route? Harnessing the two horses to the wagon separately, rather than under a single yoke? Providing a scripted "pass multiple images into Photoshop" LR export-based plugin, akin to what LR/Enfuse does?
I suspect there will be a lot of people who in the past have upgraded PS infrequently, and not planning to upgrade every single version going forward, who are currently re-considering their position about PS in view of the announced change of upgrade qualification.
Lightroom only gets stronger the more ways you can use it with other software, and while a "forced" upgrade of PS merely due to ACR considerations may be tolerated when ACR is central to your workflow, this is more likely to be resented when it is LR which is central, and the ACR question intrudes only peripherally. In that case people may settle unhappily for some clunky workaround (toward which Adobe have simply been unhelpful, in their insistence on ACR parity as the sole solution).

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In Lightroom 4, How do I open camera raw when I select to edit in photoshop

Hi,
What version of photoshop are you using?
One way is to use Edit In>Open as Smart Object in Photoshop and then double click
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When will Nikon D5500 be added to Camera Raw or Lightroom

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The camera raw updater is only for updating the plug-ins that Photoshop uses. If you want to work with your D5500 in Lightroom you need to download and install the DNG Converter 8.8, and create DNGs from your NEFs, one folder at a time, and then those DNGs will open in the older LR version.
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