Camera Raw vs. Photo Ninja
I've been hearing about a new product called Photo Ninja by the same people who make Noise Ninja, and some of the reviews by respected online personalities have actually touted it as producing superior images to Photoshop's Camera Raw.
Not being one to take others' opinions at face value without testing and looking at results with my own eyes, I requested an evaluation license to see for myself.
I'll say up front that going into the testing I figured Camera Raw would kick this contender to the curb. It's been (and still is) my opinion that Camera Raw is the best raw converter available today bar none.
Upon first trying out the package, I immediately stumbled upon a number of usability issues that would make PhotoNinja a pain to use... Things like unexpectedly slow control responses (I have one of the faster PC workstations available), some not quite intuitive controls, a UI that doesn't seem to conform to any known or typical computer standard (though I'll be the first to admit I have limited exposure to OSX)... It's not surprising someone intimately familiar with Camera Raw might have some initial troubles with the UI of another package, but I stumbled through it.
Mostly I am interested in image quality. Results - that which matters most to me.
I looked at a number of well-exposed Canon EOS-40D images I have captured, and some not so well-exposed. I looked at images that were taken with wide angle zoom lenses and needed correction of various kinds of distortion. In general, if I did something with either converter that made an image better, I attempted to equal or surpass the feat with the other converter. When I couldn't get things any better I stopped and examined the results.
Before I end up writing an even bigger novel, here are my (brief) observations on image quality so far, followed by a few screen grabs showing comparisons. Perhaps these can generate discussion...
OVERALL, Photo Ninja (PN) does a decent job - better than I expected, actually - but the devil is in the details. Photoshop Camera Raw (ACR) just makes images that consistently look better. I will say that I got to better looking results much more quickly with ACR, but I'm more familiar with it, so that may not be an important observation.
PN can't generate upsampled output (images with more pixels than the number of photosites in the camera), while ACR can. That flavors the quality - in general it means that while I started out thinking PN might be making images with more detail, it turned out that the more I tweaked each converter the more detail I was ultimately able to bring out with ACR, while PN reached a limit primarily because it couldn't pack the output pixels any tighter.
ACR is generally capable of finer adjustments. For example, PN can only rotate images in 1/2 degree increments.
Though PN does a quite decent job of de-mosaicing - visibly better than ACR's prior PV2010 process - the color and naturalness of appearance is better to my eye from Camera Raw with PV2012. Tree branches against bright sky or white buildings just look better and more natural from Camera Raw. That said, there were several cases where it appeared some lines were rendered more cleanly by PN (see the dark green trellis example below).
ACR's automatic chromatic aberration (CA) correction facilities seem more accurate overall, while PN left more colored fringes in most cases. On the other hand, ACR in some cases left slightly more colored de-Bayering artifacts.
Both tools seem capable of recovering a LOT of information from nearly overexposed parts of images, though ACR gets the nod for making the transition into overexposure look more natural.
I don't know how much profiling / tweaking capability PN has, and I do know I've tweaked my ACR some, but colors just look cleaner and more healthy to me (with a few exceptions) from ACR.
Anyway, I've made the following screen grabs to illustrate some of the above, Photo Ninja conversions are on the left, Camera Raw conversions are on the right. Note that the zoom levels are different because I opened images at upsampled resolutions in ACR (as I normally do) while PN cannot do this.
My conclusion: Though Photo Ninja produces surprisingly good conversions, it's not really serious competition for professionals who want to get the most out of their raw image data.
-Noel
Well done, Noel !
Even though ACR won out in your tests, the makers of PN should be pleased with your report and your methodology. Thanks for sharing.
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STL 13.0.6 x001 ©2006-2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “U3D.plugin”
Sumi-e 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Summation 13.0.6 x001 ©2006-2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “statistics.plugin”
Targa 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Texturizer 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Tiles 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Torn Edges 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Twirl 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Underpainting 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Vanishing Point 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “VanishingPoint.plugin”
Variance 13.0.6 x001 ©2006-2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “statistics.plugin”
Water Paper 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Watercolor 13.0, Copyright © 1991-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Filter Gallery.plugin”
Wave 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Wavefront|OBJ 13.0.6 x001 ©2006-2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “U3D.plugin”
Wind 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Wireless Bitmap 13.0.6 x001 ©1989-2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “WBMP.plugin”
ZigZag 13.0, Copyright © 2003-2012 Adobe Systems Incorporated - from the file “Standard Multiplugin.plugin”
Optional and third party plug-ins:
Color Efex Pro 3.0 Wacom Edition 6 NO VERSION - from the file “CEP3WacomEdition6.plugin”
Imacon 3f NO VERSION - from the file “Imacon3F.plugin”
Nik Selective Tool NO VERSION - from the file “SelectivePalette.plugin”
Plug-ins that failed to load:
BMP NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “BMP.plugin”
Color Halftone NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Color Halftone.plugin”
CompuServe GIF NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “GIF.plugin”
Crop and Straighten Photos Filter NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “CropPhotos.plugin”
Crystallize NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Crystallize.plugin”
De-Interlace NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “De-Interlace.plugin”
Displace NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Displace.plugin”
Extract NO VERSION - The plug-in Extract is too old to run in CS6 - from the file “ExtractPlus.plugin”
Extrude NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Extrude.plugin”
Fibers NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Fibers.plugin”
Filmstrip NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “FilmStrip.plugin”
FXG NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “FXG.plugin”
IFF Format NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “IFF Format.plugin”
Imacon 3f NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Imacon 3f.plugin”
Lens Flare NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Lens Flare.plugin”
Mezzotint NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Mezzotint.plugin”
OpenEXR NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “OpenEXR.plugin”
Pattern Maker NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “PatternMaker.plugin”
Photo CD NO VERSION - - from the file “PhotoCD.plugin”
Pinch NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Pinch.plugin”
PNG NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “PNG.plugin”
Pointillize NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Pointillize.plugin”
Polar Coordinates NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Polar.plugin”
Radial Blur NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Radial Blur.plugin”
Ripple NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Ripple.plugin”
ScriptListener NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “ScriptingListener.plugin”
Shear NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Shear.plugin”
Smart Blur NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Smart Blur.plugin”
Spherize NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Spherize.plugin”
Targa NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Targa.plugin”
Tiles NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Tiles.plugin”
Twirl NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Twirl.plugin”
Wave NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Wave.plugin”
Wind NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “Wind.plugin”
ZigZag NO VERSION - 32-bit plug-in not supported in 64-bit - from the file “ZigZag.plugin”
Flash:
Watermark
onOne
Mini Bridge
Kuler
Installed TWAIN devices: NONE -
After reinstalling CS6 the bridge photo downloader isn't able to read raw files and fails to convert the raw files to DNG. Previously downloaded raw files, now DNG, open up successfully in Camera Raw 7. How do I get the photo downloader to read and convert raw files. MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard. No such problem before this reinstallation.
You should install Camera Raw 4.6.
Visit this page and follow the instructions carefully:
PC: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4040
Mac: http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4039
-Noel -
Camera RAW not appearing in Photo Downloader
Hello,
Since moving to a new PC (from Windows XP to Windows Vista 32-bit), the Elements Photo Downloader never shows the RAW files just .jpg files.
I'll try and describe my setup in detail:
Windows Vista 32-bit
Photoshop Elements 5.0 (applied the 5.0.2 update)
Camera RAW plug-in 4.4.1 (tried with 4.3.1 also, no luck)
Camera is Canon 400D, Firmware v 1.0.4
The only difference between when I had it working under XP is a firmware update to my camera. Could this have caused the problem? If so, which version of Camera RAW should I use?
Many Thanks.Don't try to download directly from the camera...use a card reader. Your firmware update prolly broke XP's ability to see the camera as a disk instead of a device.
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Photoshop on start or opening a photo in camera raw puts computer in Restart mode.
When I start my computer and try to open Photoshop or open a photo in camera raw the computer some of the time will go into restart mode and again and again. I have removed all of Photoshop CC2014 and reloaded from adobe and have the same problem. Any ideas as to what might be happening?
Quite likely the problem is not Photoshop as an application like that should not be able to crash/restart your OS.
Please read these (in particular the section titled "Supply pertinent information for quicker answers"):
http://blogs.adobe.com/crawlspace/2012/07/photoshop-basic-troubleshooting-steps-to-fix-mos t-issues.html
http://forums.adobe.com/docs/DOC-2325
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