Camera raw Workflow?

1.) Can you edit raw format files in Photoshop CS5 or do you have to do this in Camera Raw?
2.) Which edits should be done in Camera Raw before bringing the file into PhotoShop?
White balance, tonal range, contrast, color saturation, sharpening? What else?
3.) Is the idea of this workflow to perform the steps listed in #2 and then to do any of the retouching, such as healing brush, clone, etc. in Photoshop and then to sharpen the image in PhotoShop at the end?
Thanks.

Are you suggesting that Camera Ra is optimal place for adjustments for raw images or for images in general? Is it better to adjust jpgs in Camera Raw also?
What is the Capture Sharpening feature?
Thanks!

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Camera Raw Workflow options

HI
when i open jpag (or tiff) in camera raw Workflow options,
i have option to size image.
may question it's: if i choose the large size, what hapen to
may image - interpolation like in Ps?
thank

I don't know which algorithm Camera Raw uses ... but the result of the upsampling is virtually the same as Bicubic Smoother in Photoshop. Except for one thing: Camera Raw's upsampling will add tiny ringing artifacts to the result; Photoshop's won't. The artifacts are bright, horizontal or vertical, 1-pixel-wide lines along sharp, high-contrast edges. So for perfect results I recommend to convert the raw image to its native size in Camera Raw, then do the upsizing in Photoshop using the resampling method Bicubic Smoother. Before upsizing, apply some gentle source or capture sharpening.
However those ringing artifacts are really
i very
small; it takes a very close look at high magnification to notice. In most cases they'll go unnoticed. So you may decide not to care. However they tend to get emphasized by subsequent sharpening.
-- Olaf

Camera Raw Workflow Settings - where?

Hi!
In Bruce Fraser's and Jeff Schewe's "Camera Raw with .. CS3", p 134, a dialogue box Workflow Options is shown. Likewise, Photoshop CS3 Help > Camera Raw > CR Settings > CR Workflow Options promises "You can see and change these Workflow settings at the bottom of the Camera Raw dialog box."
I wonder which dialog box the text is referring to. I can not see the Workflow dialog box at the bottom of the dialog box shown in Bridge > Camera Raw Preferences, nor in Bridge > Preferences, nor in Photoshop > Preferences, nor in Photoshop > Edit > Color Settings.
All the entrances on the Adobe site only lead me to the same PS Help document.
It would indeed be useful to be able to specify e.g the bit depth as a default, because the PS default seems to be 8 bit (PS > Image > Mode), so I have to remember to set it to 16 for every single image anew.
I use Mac 10.4.11 on a MacBook Pro, 2GHz processor, 2GB RAM , PS CS3, ACR 4.5
Thanks for help! Hening.

>Well, the save button is alongside the hyperlink (to it's left) and that opens a fresh panel to allow various options to be set, so I find the explanation advanced by the ACR Team bit hard to understand.
You running a display at 1024 x 768? Because that's Camera Raw's real estate minimum that HAS to be supported...so what you can do in a dialog whose display ends up at a much higher resolution is severely limited because of the minimum requirements. That's why...

Why is the resolution stuck in the Camera Raw workflow dialogue box?

I cannot adjust the resolution in the workflow space in Camera Raw. It goes from 70 backwards to 1. The same situation exists in Image Size when I switch to Photoshop. Help!

Think I figured it out. I needed to open a copy of the image as the original had been saved at 72 . When I "saved as" I could change everything in Photoshop.
Thanks,
Alan
Sent from my iPad

Adobe Camera Raw workflow question #2901

Now that I have my new digital camera-dedicated rig up and running I have been using ACR and CS2 to process my backlog of Canon 30D CR2 files. I am trying to get them ready for posting on the internet. Currently I am using ACR only to tweak Exposure and White Balance, then I move the file in 16 bits/AdobeRGB to CS2 where I do noise reduction, levels, curves adjustment, saturation then resize, sharpening then convert to an 8 bit, sRGB Jpg.
I have adopted this workflow because it was similar to the one I used when my old creakin' PC required me to use DPP to do my RAW conversion (and I subsequently did PP in CS with a 16 bit TIFF)
But I notice ACR has many choices and options such as contrast, shadows, saturation, sharpness, noise reduction controls that one can perform prior to RAW conversion. I have read in the past theoretical comments that adjustments are best made to a file during RAW conversion rather than while as a jpg. Does the same apply to a 16 BiT TIFF? In the workflow above, am I working on a TIFF?
I am wondering if I am better off to make all of the adjustments in ACR window instead of the more lengthy process in CS2. Are there any advantages to doing these adjustments prior to RAW conversion? Or is it better to do PP on 16 bit files using layers?
What are the relative merits of processing the file in either ACR window or as an 16 bit file in CS2?
If it matters, I work on a PC and prefer to PP each file separately rather than in batches. But I DO use batch runs in CS2 to save time using Actions with around 10 file batches to do noise reduction and resize/convert to sRGB/save as.
As always, thanks for the time you take to help me out!!

>"What does Pixelgenius PhotoKit Sharpener do that I can't do, perhaps with more trouble, by applying what I've read in his book? And would I have a problem trying to use it with CS3? "
I have a few observations and perhaps Jeff can comment. With images taken with a digital camera at high ISO, noise reduction may be necessary in the capture phase of sharpening. PhotoKit offers the sharpen and smooth option for this purpose. One can exert some control over the smoothing process by changing the opacity of the smoothing layer and the blend if sliders.
In his sharpening book Bruce uses Photoshop's reduce noise and despeckle filters to reduce noise (sometimes using the despeckle filter multiple times), but I don't know what filter is used in the PhotoKit smoothing operation or what parameters are used for the reduce noise filter if it is used.
If you use Bruce's book and the "roll your own" approach, you have more control over the noise reduction process and also the possibility of using a third party NR product such as the Noise Ninja plugin. Furthermore, just as an edge mask is used to restrict the sharpening to the edges, a surface mask may be used with NR to keep the smoothing away from the edges. The surface mask may be derived by inverting the edge mask used for sharpening, but Bruce says that some tweaking may give improved results.
An alternative would be to use the third party NR prior to using PK sharpener. However, you would still need to make a surface mask for optimum results, but I doubt that many users take the trouble of doing this.
In my own work with the Nikon D200 (which has rather high noise at high ISO), I find that I often get unacceptable noise and artifacts with PK Sharpener when used with high ISO images.
Also, many landscape photographers mask off areas of clear blue sky and foliage that do not need sharpening, thereby avoiding accentuation of noise secondary to sharpening in these areas.
>Bruce gave you the recipies...he didn't give you the exact numbers to use. So, you'll have to do what he and I did...trial and error, to arrive at optimum numbers...
For output sharpening, the PK defaults seem to work quite well and the trial and effort of rolling your own is usually not worthwhile, IMHO.

Camera Raw 8.3 Workflow option no longer has a preset drop down to create custom presets.

I do not know why I am no longer able to assign presets to my Camera Raw workflow. The drop down in no longer available at the top. Any suggestions on what I did to hide this, I would appreciate it.
Thanks

I just reloaded Bridge CC and it seems to have corrected the problem. Not sure why, but not complaining. Thanks to all of you who tried to help.
Regards

Camera Raw 4.1 - Open Image in 16 Bit mode

How does one do this? The Help Screen describes altering Camera Raw Workflow Options at the bottom of the Camera Raw Dialog box. I could do this in ACR 3, but my dialogue box in 4.1 has buttons at the bottom for "Save Image", "Open Image", "Cancel" and "Done". I can't see anything that will give me additional options. How do I find them? Any advice will be much appreciated. Terry

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I am trying to softproof an image using a CMYK .icc file. I sent an image from LR 5 to PS CC 2014, opened the Camera Raw FIlter, but the hyperlink to access workflow is not showing up in the CR dialogue box... Any ideas why this might be?

I am trying to softproof an image using a CMYK .icc file. I sent an image from LR 5 to PS CC 2014, opened the Camera Raw FIlter, but the hyperlink to access workflow is not showing up in the CR dialogue box... Any ideas why this might be?

I am trying to softproof an image using a CMYK .icc file. I sent an image from LR 5 to PS CC 2014, opened the Camera Raw FIlter, but the hyperlink to access workflow is not showing up in the CR dialogue box... Any ideas why this might be?

Raw Workflow PS CS3 and Camera Raw 4.5

Hello
I just started working with raw files, that's why I'm not sure about the best workflow with Camera Raw 4.5 and Photoshop CS3. My aim is to post process in raw 4.5. and in CS3 with as less quality loss as possible.
So when I finished the processing in raw 4.5 do I have to save it before I can continue working with the file in CS3 and in which format am I going to save it? If I save the raw file as psd, will I have quality loss? After post processing in CS3 what is the best format (for quality) to save it (there is no DNG possibility).
Thank you very much for your help!
Sarosa

You will probably get a lot of different answers your question because everyone has their own preferred workflow. Generally speaking, however, I think it is best to do as much of your postprocessing in Camera Raw as possible because it is nondestructive. You do not have to save your image to a different format before you start working on it in Photoshop. By clicking the Open button in Camera Raw, any changes that you have made are stored as metadata, and then the image along with all those changes is opened in Photoshop. Once you have the image in Photoshop you are now going to be editing the pixels of the image directly. And once those types of modifications have begun you cannot save the image as a raw image or a DNG file. It will be necessary to store it in a different format. I think good choices are either as PSD or TIF because either of these formats will save your work without doing any damage to the image data. From either one of those formats you can create JPEG or any other type of image that you need when required. JPEG images are saved with a type of compression that can, over time and through multiple saves causes your image to deteriorate.
In summary, you always have your raw images to go back to if necessary to start over. Use PSD or TIF to save your working files in Photoshop. And only create JPEG images from those PSD or TIF when they are required for the Web or for e-mail, etc..

Camera raw 8.5 preferences workflow

When I would open workflow preferences in the size block...I would have sever options...generally from 1.8mb size up to 21mb. Now I just have one choice...the default. How do I change that back to multiple choices??? many thanks... Greg

Is it possible you're looking in the wrong place? You can now choose any size you want for a Camera Raw conversion. It's very flexible.
-Noel

Color managed workflow for web and camera raw

I recently calibrated my monitor and was wondering what is the preferred workflow for the web? I shoot with my camera in sRGB and my working space in Photoshop is sRGB aswell. The problem that has arised now is that the color managed colors in Photoshop are way different than the non-color managed in my web browser. Is this normal? And what I don't quite get is how a photo that has an embed sRGB profile looks the same in Firefox (that understand embed profiles) and Photoshop, but in Google Chrome (that does not recognize embed color profiles) shows the colors very differently, although the browser should understand the photo is in sRGB by default and show the same colors that are in Photoshop, right? So what happens here, because the colors are not the same? What information does Photoshop assign to the embed color profile that makes the colors so different?
Anyway, I assume the problem here seems to be my newly calibrated monitor profile. The only way I can get the same colors to my photo in Photoshop and to a photo in web is to use soft proofing set to my Monitor RGB AND save without a color profile. Is this the way to go? But here comes another problem. I shoot in RAW and use camera raw to edit my photos. Camera Raw doesn't allow soft proofing, so I'm stuck with these color managed colors that are so different from non-color managed colors I get in my browser that any color correction in Camera Raw is simply useless. Unless everyone was using color managed browsers and I could start to use fully color managed workflow, but that's not the case I suppose. So, what's the solution here?

First off, you need to be working in sRGB, or converting to sRGB when you save out files that are destined for the web. You can change the color space that Camera Raw (ACR) send your raw files to by clicking the blue text in the bottom center of the ACR window. This is probably that safest workflow for you until you get a handle on color management. If the color of your images is very important, you might consider embedding a color profile in them, which will help color managed browsers render your color properly.
If your display's color gamut is different than sRGB (many are), you'll find matching colors for non-color-managed browsers to be impossible. But consider the average display and take heart. The best you can do is correct to a standard and hope for the best.
Both the convert to sRGB and embed color profile options are in the save for web dialogue box.
More about the ACR workflow options here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS739D7239-24A7-452b-92F9-80481C544F25.html
More about matching colors for the web:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSB3484C68-ECD2-4fa4-B7CC-447A5FE86680.html
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WSD3F5E059-4F51-4b44-8566-13B854D3DF5F.html
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Photoshop/11.0/WS0B3CD652-4675-44be-9E10-445EB83C60BA.html

Adobe Camera Raw to Photoshop Workflow

Hi
Can someone please tell me those edits which should/Must be done in Adobe Camera raw on a Raw image prior to importing and editing with Photoshop.
I believe its the following.
-White Balance
-Crop
-Exposure to recover blown highlights
-Tone adjustments to contrast and Brightness
-Lens Chromatic and vignetting
-Renaming and 16bit exporting
Every thing else can be carried out ion the Tif in PS
Thanks
Carlo

Most Camera Raw-oriented people say do as much as possible in the plug-in, but I tend to think that Photoshop (the main app) isn't all washed up just yet.
I do pretty much what you listed, myself.
When CS5 was first released with Camera Raw and the new 2010 process, I did quite a bit of experimentation to find out just what seemed to give the best results with regard to delivering the best detail in my images. It turns out doing upsampling in Camera Raw to the highest or next to highest pixel count gives slightly better, more natural looking detail IMO. Of course you need a good computer to handle the extra image size.
Converting to 16 bits/channel seems prudent.
Also note that if you convert to anything other than the ProPhoto RGB color space you chance getting channel clipping, where values for one of the color channels come up solid black, even though the camera may have measured above-0 luminance in those parts of the image.
-Noel

Installing camera raw 6.7 - "error loading updater workflow"

This is what happens when I try to install camera raw 6.7 in Windows 7. Anyone have this problem and have discovered how to fix it? I have tried shutting the computer down and restarting, tried re-downloading several times, no luck. I was able to install the Adobe DNG converter from the same page on Adobe Labs without difficulty. Any suggestions? My computer guys just threw up their hands and laughed at me...LOL.

Try running the Application Manager update by downloading the update installer from the below website:
For Mac:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4774
For Win:
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4773
Once the update is applied, restart the machine, and then try to launch updater again, see if this works??
Regards,
Ashutosh

GoPro Camera Raw Lens Profile settings not working for image sequence in Photoshop/AE/Premiere CS6

Hey Everyone,
I'm in need of assistance in either Photoshop CS6, After Effects CS6, or Premiere Pro CS6. I just installed the trials after seeing Russell Brown demo the GoPro Lens Profile correction feature in Camera Raw. Basically what I'm looking to do is make adjustments (in Adobe Camera Raw) to a series of still images (shot with the time-lapse mode on the GoPro) and then either export those stills through Photoshop or Bridge to a temporary movie file that will be imported into a timeline (with other video clips), or import the JPG files (with Camera Raw settings) directly into After Effects or Premiere as an image sequence. The latter would be preferable as it'd avoid the extra step of having to render the intermediate/temporary movie file.
Right now, my current workflow for GoPro time-lapses is:
          - use Bridge CS4 to do basic color correction on the still images
          - save those as TIF files
          - run the TIF files through a custom script to have Hugin 2012.0.0 (open source pano stitcher) remove the fisheye distortion
          - open the new TIF image sequence into QuickTime Player 7 (Pro)
          - export the image sequence as a QuickTime movie file
          - import the movie file into Premiere Elements 10 to place on a timeline with other video clips (as Premiere Elements can't handle the sequence(s) of thousands of still images without crashing)
If I can go directly from Bridge to a timeline, it'd save a lot of processing time (and it'd be much nicer to preview the images in Bridge without the fisheye distortion)!
I can prepare the GoPro JPG files through Adobe Camera Raw in Bridge CS6, though when I go to import the JPEG image sequence into Premiere Pro CS6 or After Effects CS6, none of the Camera Raw settings are applied. If I export the Camera Raw files in Bridge CS6 as DNG files (a step I'd really prefer to avoid) and then import the DNG image sequence into After Effects CS6, the Camera Raw settings are applied except for the Lens Profile settings -- I can pick other cameras but not the GoPro lens profiles when the DNG image sequence loads in After Effects. It also appears that once I open the DNG files in After Effects CS6, I can no longer access the GoPro Lens Profile in Adobe Bridge CS6 -- the list changes to the same list I get in After Effects. Premiere Pro CS6 doesn't let me import the DNG files at all. I've also tried to import the JPG files (as well as the converted DNG files) into an image sequence in Photoshop CS6, though it doesn't allow me to do so (the Image Sequence checkbox is grayed out after I apply the Camera Raw settings in Bridge).
There could be an issue going on with different Camera Raw versions. I didn't have Premiere Pro CS6 installed during my initial testing, though now do notice that the Camera Raw dialog in Bridge CS6 only lets me choose compatibility up to "Camera Raw 7.1 and later" when I choose to export the files as DNG. I thought Camera Raw 8.2 was an option there a couple days ago when I only had installed Photoshop CS6 and After Effects CS6 (though am not 100% certain).
Please let me know if there is some workaround to get the GoPro lens profile Camera Raw corrections applied in an image sequence in one of the Adobe CS6 products (without having to export the files as temporary TIF or JPG files out of Camera Raw). I'd greatly prefer to shorten my current workflow for these files. (I just updated the CS6 trials and have tested all three programs again though I still get the same results described above.)
Does Lightroom 5 have any option to export Camera Raw image sequences as movie files (or any other feature that might help in simplifying my current workflow)? I can't install the trial right now as it's not compatible with OS X 10.6.8. I'd consider upgrading OS X if I knew Lightroom 5 would do what I need, though am waiting for any potential color profile issues to be resolved in OS X 10.9.
I can open the image sequence in Photoshop CS6 if no Camera Raw settings are applied and then use the Lens Correction Filter to apply the GoPro Lens Profile settings, though I really prefer the Camera Raw interface in Bridge for tweaking image settings. As soon as I apply Camera Raw settings to the first image, Photoshop CS6 grays out the image sequence checkbox.
If there isn't a way to take Camera Raw files straight from Adobe Bridge to a timeline, I may stick with my current workflow using CS4 and see what I can do to better automate some of the steps as the TIF export in Bridge, fisheye distortion removal in Hugin, and render in QuickTime Player all take quite a while. I won't mind waiting for all the processing if I can set it and check back on it in later the next day when it's fully complete. Is there a way to have Adobe ExtendScript execute an external shell command (i.e.: a command I could type into the bash shell in Terminal in OS X)? If not, is there a way to call/run an ExtendScript script from the command line and pass a parameter to it that my custom script could use?
Thanks in advance,
Mark

Can you zip up a few of your GoPro images, upload them to dropbox.com and post a share link, here, so others can experiment with them, or do you mean this issue is global to all camera models?

Can't open files in Camera Raw while in Bridge CS6

05/30/2014
Believe this issue/problem happened after automatic update from Adobe (but can't be sure).
Have always uploaded files from camera into Bridge then do some editing by opening JPEG and RAW (NEF) files in Camera Raw from Bridge.
Now, "Open in Camera Raw" is greyed out and I am unable to find a way to open files with Camera Raw from inside Bridge CS6. This seemed to happen suddenly and without any new software or applications being added to computer. All other apps/software working well.
Have tried various fixes found on Adobe community discussions without success. Problem now ongoing for over a week +.
Am able to open files in Photoshop with no problem but want to be able to do some quick edits using Camera Raw opening files from Bridge CS6.
I'm using Bridge CS6 Version 5.0.2.4. (as part of Adobe Creative Suite 6). Updater states I have most current version of Bridge installed.
I'm using an iMac computer with Intel Core i7 processor
OS X 10.8.5
Have found others with this same or very similar problems on forums but either can't understand patches/directions or unable to complete instructions on my computer.
for example see: Camera RAW update issue with Bridge CS6
From that link/discussion, one finds this "solution":
After you update to Camera Raw 8.4, Bridge CS6 in Mac OS doesn't display image metadata or allow you to edit images in Camera Raw.
To the top
Manually install the Camera Raw 8.4 plug-in.
Exit Adobe Bridge.
Download the file below.
Locate and double-click the downloaded file to decompress it. The resulting file is Camera Raw.plugin.
Navigate to the Macintosh HD folder.
Open the Library/Application Support/Adobe/Plug-Ins/CS6/File Formats folder.
IMPORTANT: Navigate to the root Library folder on your hard disk, not the Library folder under your user folder.
Copy the Camera Raw.plugin from step 3 into the File Formats folder.
IMPORTANT: This new file overwrites the file already in this folder. It's important that only one Camera Raw.plugin file is in this folder.
Open Adobe Bridge.
Camera Raw.plugin.zip
Mac OS Camera Raw 8.4 plug-in for manual installation
However, when I try the above, I have these issues:
1. When I double click on the downloaded file, my computer opens PhotoShop and an error message is displayed that states "Could not complete your request because Photoshop does not recognize this type of file." (I suspect this may mean my computer has automatically decompressed the file, but I am not certain of that).
2. Not completely certain I know how to "Navigate to the Macintosh HD folder" as suggested in step 4. above (OK, I'm new to Mac; long-time PC user….)
3. When I am in "Finder" and click on "GO" while holding down "Option" key, I find "Library". within that, I can find "Library/Application Support/Adobe" but there is no "Plug-Ins" folder within the "Adobe" subfolder.
4. Not sure how to tell if I am in the "root Library" on my hard disk vs. "Library under my user folder". (Again, new to Mac….)
I have NOT yet tried doing an "Uninstall" and then Re-installing the whole Adobe Creative Suite 6 and would like to avoid that if possible.
Would absolutely LOVE it if Adobe would simply push an update that would fix this problem or if someone would explain to me how I could restore the earlier version that worked perfectly for me.
Any help, suggestions (in very basic, simple terms that any idiot new to the world of Macintosh can understand) would be appreciated. Very frustrated with Adobe at the moment.
Mostly have liked the switch to Mac, but with this and my photo workflow coming to a screeching halt, having second thoughts. (But I suppose Adobe update for PC may cause problems as well.)
Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions.

05/30/2014
Literally minutes after I posted the above, I figured this out myself and now I'm a happy camper and things are back to normal!
Here was my error/issue: as a new Mac user, I was not negotiating/finding files on my hard drive correctly.
In case there are others out there with this same issue (and as dense as I apparently am ):
Here is what I did that resulted in a fix:
First Steps:
1. Quit/close Bridge
2. As noted in post above, go to this link to download Camera Raw Plugin file:
Camera RAW update issue with Bridge CS6
Link to get to download is near end of instructions, but I will attempt to insert that link to download here:
Camera Raw.plugin.zip
3. Once file has been downloaded, find it by using "Finder" Click on "Finder" and look on list of options on left side of Finder window to find "Downloads". On my computer, when clicking on "Finder" these options appear in the list at the left:
All My Files
Airdrop
Applications
Desktop
Documents
Downloads
Movies
Music
Pictures
4. Download you just did should be at or near the top of your downloads list and should be named as "Camera Raw.plugin" and will be 83.5 MB in size
5. I right-clicked (two fingers on touchpad) to bring up drop down options and selected "Copy 'Camera Raw.plugin'" from that list to copy file.
Now, you have copied the plug in that will fix this issue. The second set of steps below will walk you through how to replace the file that is on your hard drive with this plug in file that you have copied.
Second set of steps (and this is where, as a new Mac user, I was confused initially)
1. Again, click on "Finder" on your Mac
2. On top of screen, find "GO" and click on that. (You should see "Finder" in the upper right corner of your screen, then "File, Edit, View, GO, Window, Help" Click on the GO
3. In drop down menu that appears, click on "Computer"
4. Then, double click on "Macintosh HD" to open your hard drive
5. Next, double click on "Library" folder to open that.
6. Next, click on "Application Support" folder to open that.
7. Then, double click on "Adobe" folder to open that.
8. Then, double click on "Plug Ins" folder to open that
9. Now, double click on "CS6" to open that folder.
10. Finally, double click on the "File Formats" folder that appears.
11. NOW, you should see this:
12. Right click (two finger press if using a touch pad) to open window with options. Select "Paste Item" by clicking on that option.
13. You will be prompted with an option to keep existing file OR replace the file. Choose "Replace" to past the new "Camera Raw.plugin" file to this folder.
Finally, if you now go back and open Bridge CS6, you should be good to go.
Hope that helps someone out there.
Hopefully future updates will from Adobe will be better.

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