Camera Roll Limit?

Is there a limit to the amount of photos you can keep on the iPhone?
My wife has a 32GB iPhone 4 with about 20GB free but experienced an issue today.
The iPhone had about 1,400 photos on it. When attempting to go into the camera roll it crashed back to the springboard. When plugging into a PC it no longer showed up under My Computer so we could not delete or access the photos from there as usual.
I had to restore from iCloud and delete most of the photos as iCloud restored them to resolve the issue.
I know my wife should copy the photos off the phone every now and then to keep the number down but would of thought the phone could handle it with so much storage free.
As we could not access the camera roll and the phone stopped showing up in My Computer there was no easy way to remove photos to resolve this issue. Surely if there is a limit it should stop saving photos and not cause this issue.

Paul_Thomo wrote:
Is there a limit to the amount of photos you can keep on the iPhone?
For the camera roll, not that I'm aware of...I've seen iPhones with thousands of photos in the camera roll. However, as you've seen, this "can" lead to problems. Fact is, the iPhone camera roll is designed for short-term storage only. To prevent problems, photos should be imported/deleted from the camera roll on a regular basis.

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Never mind, I found another discussion with the answer, I just turned camera roll off in my backup and then backed up before turning it back on and backing up again - it seems the backup was keeping the old photos for some reason.

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Hello, I am out of internal storage on my Iphone 4 ALREADY (Just purchased 3 months ago!). I need to clear up some space so I can do updates and take new photos. I was thinking about backing up my Photo Stream to the icloud and then deleting my Camera Roll.
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2.) Will deleting Camera Roll free up space (a sufficient amount? My Camera Roll is at 4.5 GB)?
3.) Will deleting Camera Roll delete my photos from Photo Stream also? It doesn't seem to.
4.) Does Photo Stream ever automatically delete photos???
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This is one of the most ridiculous, confusing and unnessacary things I've ever known! Why oh why can't we just have a good ol' SD Card??? (My Droid never ever ran out of storage and I had it for 2 years...)
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I have been working on this for 4 hours, its 2:30 am and I am going to bed. I am sorry I had to ask, but I've been searching and searching and just cannot find the answers. Thank you so much for your help!
6.) Also, I haven't been able to find the videos using the Icloud or the Photo Stream either...
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What I would say is best is to import the videos and photos to your computer so that you can delete camera roll photos with a copy of them in your possession:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4083
In regards to backing up Photo Stream
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486:
Does Photo Stream use my iCloud storage?
"No. Photos uploaded to My Photo Stream or Shared Photo Streams do not count against your iCloud storage."
However, you can do the tedious task of moving your camera roll pictures to photo stream by ensuring photo stream is turned on for your device and take a screen shot of each picture in your camera roll to move it over.
To take a screen shot, just press the "Home Button" and the "Sleep/Wake Button" at the same time while viewing the image.
1.) It's not a terrible idea, it can be tedious though.
2.) Deleting a bunch of photos/videos from a camera roll 4.5GB in size can definitely free up space
3.) Photo Stream photos, as you said, appear to stay upon deleting the photos. (Tested it personally)
4.) Photo Stream has a limit according to: (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4858)
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5.) http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4083 (As shown above)
6.) To update iTunes, you must download and then "Run" the download you get off the website. Otherwise you will just have an installer program sitting there not updating iTunes.
7.) You can bring up your Photo Stream pictures anywhere you have Photo Stream capabilities. For a computer at someone else's house, they would have to have the iCloud control panel (http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1455) on their computer and be signed into their Photo Stream and viewing your profile's pictures (http://support.apple.com/kb/ts4379)
8.) On iCloud, you can backup your text messages, but you cannot view them independently on www.icloud.com.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4859
"You get 5 GB of free iCloud storage for:
Photos and videos in the Camera Roll
Device settings (for example: Phone Favorites, Wallpaper, and Mail, Contacts, Calendar accounts)
App data
Home screen and app organization
Messages (iMessage, SMS, and MMS)
Ringtones
Visual Voicemails"
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Well appears it had nothing to do with iTunes indeed.
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http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/maximum-image-size-limits-photoshop.html
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Merging large camera rolls in photo stream for iCloud merge/backup/share

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This is just my 2 cents...I am by no means an expert on this.
What it sounds like could be happening is that in Windows it may be initially seeing a thumbnail or an associated file with the photo. (probably due to the amount of photos). As for the app itself I believe that even though you have plenty of room on the phone itself, with that many photos it could be maxing out the RAM inside the phone for that particular app. (unfortunately the only way arround this would be to limit the amount of photos).
As for the software, I would agree that there should be some kind of "album" or sorting feature w/in the app, without having to go through the computer to create such a thing. (the best approach to this is to offer a suggestion through official channels to get a change) Link below.
http://www.apple.com/feedback
Hope this helps some.
"D"

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rabidrabbit wrote:
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Hi TurquoiseBlue
Welcome to Apple Support Communities!
I will be happy to help you today.
So what I will do is explain the difference and if you have any other issue I will respond to them ASAP.
Camera Roll: This is every photo that has been take on this device and once it is deleted I will be deleted from all folders on that Phone however it will be backed up to iCloud Photos if it is enabled on your device.
My Photo Stream: This is a place where every photo you have taken in the last 30 days (with I think a limit of 10,000) are stored. The images here are all images taken on any device that used the same iCloud/Apple iD as the phone. So this means that if you took a picture on your iPod 15 days and it uses the same account as your iPhone the image taken will be on your iPhone and any other iOS and Mac OS X device that have the same account under Photo Stream. My Photo Stream is basically the Cloud storage of images.
Photo Albums: Consist of all images from the Camera role that have also been placed into an album. So if you want to sort some images from the camera role and have them in folders such as wedding, birthdays e.c.t these images will be there AND in the Camera role. If you delete the images from an album other than Camera role the images will go from that folder but will remain in the Camera role. If you delete an image from the Camera Role it will be removed from Camera Role and any other folder that is created.
Basically photos work like a flow chart.
Image Taken ⇒ Camera Role.
If there is iCloud Photos on: image ⇒ Photo Stream and therefore accessible on another iOS/Mac OS X device using same iCloud/Apple iD.
Just to repeat as I know this is crucial and important information.
If an image is deleted from Camera Role that image is wiped from the device. However there is still a copy of that photo in iCloud Photos but remember those images are only there for 30 days so don't rely on it to keep that image.
Delete an image from photo stream it is wiped from the iCloud sync of that image to all iOS/Mac OS X device using iCloud Photos using same iCloud/Apple iD. YOU WILL STILL HAVE THAT IMAGE IN CAMERA ROLE HOWEVER.
Photo Albums. Delete an image there and it will be removed JUST from the folder. Delete and image from Camera Role that is also in a folder and it will be wiped from the Camera role and Photo Album. However there is still a copy of that photo in iCloud Photos but remember those images are only there for 30 days so don't rely on it to keep that image.
Just quickly iCloud Photos is a way of keeping a cloud copy of those photos on all your iOS/Mac OS X device using the same iCloud/Apple iD as I am sure you have worked out already.
With iCloud Photos you can also share images using a shared photo stream where people can add, comment and like images there.
In short don't rely on iCloud Photos to keep an image if you want to delete an image from the photo stream because most likely when you will want the image, it will be gone.
Of course Apple might explain it better than me and so this link should verify what I said and reinforce what iCloud Photos does: http://www.apple.com/icloud/icloud-photo-sharing.html
Many Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you soon!
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