Camera specific profiles

I have been able to edit and create profiles for my D2X, and use them in lightroom, so I know I am using the profile editor correctly, and saving the resulting profiles in the right place.
I tried to create a profile for my wife's sony point and shoot, which only produces jpegs. I photographed the color checker, converted the resulting jpg to dng, and created a profile in the profile editor.
However, lightroom does not show the profile for photos taken with the sony. Can the profile editor be used to create profiles for point and shoot cameras that only generate jpegs?
The profile editor is a great tool BTW.
TIA
Rory

Sorry, it only works for raw files.

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White Balance tool and Camera Calibration Profiles

Downloaded Lightroom v4 Beta 1 for mac but the installer package failed to launch. (com.apple.installer.pagecontroller error -1.) So I've only watched the adobe tv presentations todate.
Anyway just wanted to give some feedback as a pro photographer about use of Lightroom and improvments I would like to see in the next version.
I am a commercial photographer who needs colour accuracy in photographing fashion/garment images - most of my work is reproduced on a printing press for catalogues and brochures. On average a shoot will yeild about 500 images for a client, so workflow is important as they normally want them all!
As a previous user of Capture One Pro v6 and now lightroom v3.6 - the biggest issue I have with Lightroom is the dominace of red tint when setting the white balance from a gray card reference image, shot at the same time as the images to be processed. I'm not adding anything to the images other than doing a white balance, a tweak on exposure and camera neutral setting on profiles.
To obtain a white balance setting I use the combination of an Xrite white balance card and the Q-Card and the old fasioned Kodak Gray cards all mounted on the same surface. I've used spot and ambient light readings on the gray cards to measure exposure and I've used the Adobe DNG Profiler and the Xrite colour checker profiler with the large colour checker card as a reference, (I've made profiles for sunny days, cloudy days, dual illuminant etc etc) and I'm viewing my images on a colour calibrated apple monitor.
Not withstanding all of the above the best results I get out of Lightroom are using the camera profile neutral setting! Everthing else is just too red!! even though the images do look more punchy; for accuracy of actual colour I choose the camera neutral profile.
Well when I say best results, those for colour critical garment photography and skin tones, these results are similar to those obtained from capture one pro v6.
So for the Lightroom v4 I would like to see.
1. White balance RGB values in numbers rather than percentages.
2. Add and delete a colour readouts points with a dropper tool on an image to enable more acurate colour balancing particularly in shadow areas - (already available on capture one pro and adobe photoshop)
3. Curves adjustments in all RGB channels (think you've done this)
4. Output to CMYK profiles.
5. Individual levels channel adjustment for RGB
6. Ability re-organize my tools palette (add and remove) is per Capture One and Photoshop
Regards

The legacy ACR X.x profiles are no more produced nor included for newer cameras (AFAIK, since ACR 5.1/LR 2.1). The Adobe Standard is the new default starting point for these.
While I am at it....are the Canon camera profiles I downloaded for the 1Ds MKII the same as for the 5D MKII or do I have to download different one...I suspect they are the same or Lightroom wouldn't offer them to me...is that correct?
The profiles are different for each camera model, even if they share the same name in the Calibration panel. If you can see them when developing 5DII files, it means the camera-specific profiles are installed for your particular camera model (otherwise, you wouldn't see them).

Color artifacts with A7s and A6000 files using Camera calibration profiles

I'm seeing some really obvious chroma artifacts / false colors with RAW files from either a Sony A7s or A6000 when using any of the Adobe-provided Camera calibration profiles that emulate Sony's rendering.
This seems to happen at any ISO, and is very frequent.
If I use the Adobe Standard calibration profile then things look normal, but that's might just be because it produces rather desaturated images compared to the "sony" profiles.
Prior to those Sony cameras I was using Nikon DSLRs for which I had somewhat similar issues when using the first version of the Nikon camera profiles.
Those issues got fixed when Adobe released the "v4" camera profiles.
Below are some examples without any adjustment, the only difference is the choice of camera calibration profile:
Camera Landscape:
Adobe Standard:
Camera Standard:
Adobe Standard:
Camera Landscape:
Adobe Standard:

The legacy ACR X.x profiles are no more produced nor included for newer cameras (AFAIK, since ACR 5.1/LR 2.1). The Adobe Standard is the new default starting point for these.
While I am at it....are the Canon camera profiles I downloaded for the 1Ds MKII the same as for the 5D MKII or do I have to download different one...I suspect they are the same or Lightroom wouldn't offer them to me...is that correct?
The profiles are different for each camera model, even if they share the same name in the Calibration panel. If you can see them when developing 5DII files, it means the camera-specific profiles are installed for your particular camera model (otherwise, you wouldn't see them).

Camera Calibration Profiles And 5D MKII

Until now I have been using a Canon 1Ds MKII and have had not only the downloaded Canon Camera Profiles available in the Calibration panel of the Develop Module but also the Adobe Standard, ACR 2.4, and ACR 4.4 profiles. Recently I got a Canon 5D MKII and in Lightroom I only have available the Canon Camera Profiles and Adobe Standard. The ACR 2.4 and 4.4 don't seem to be available as options with the 5D MKII RAW files. I liked having them as they served as alternative rough starting points. I am wondering what happened to them and how they can be gotten back as an option for the 5D MKII. Has this happened to anyone else?
While I am at it....are the Canon camera profiles I downloaded for the 1Ds MKII the same as for the 5D MKII or do I have to download different one...I suspect they are the same or Lightroom wouldn't offer them to me...is that correct?
Howard

The legacy ACR X.x profiles are no more produced nor included for newer cameras (AFAIK, since ACR 5.1/LR 2.1). The Adobe Standard is the new default starting point for these.
While I am at it....are the Canon camera profiles I downloaded for the 1Ds MKII the same as for the 5D MKII or do I have to download different one...I suspect they are the same or Lightroom wouldn't offer them to me...is that correct?
The profiles are different for each camera model, even if they share the same name in the Calibration panel. If you can see them when developing 5DII files, it means the camera-specific profiles are installed for your particular camera model (otherwise, you wouldn't see them).

Camera specific WB next?

I think the new camera specific profiles are excellent and will move many new customer from camera made raw converters to LR.
It seems like LR manage to read the WB setting in camera and translate that to ACR WB numbers - very good! As shoot, Auto and White balance selector work as expected.
What still confuse many users are the difference in WB settings when you choose the other setting in the menu. Cloudy gives 6500 temp and +10 tint that is way of for my D300 with to warm WB and a strong cast of pink.
If I take a test shoot with my D300 set to cloudy in camera and import the picture LR shows WB values of 5650 temp and -1 tint... I've made preset for my camera and don't use the WB menu for this.
I would suggest that values for Daylight, Cloudy, Shade etc. should be camera specific and match the default values from that camera. Not equal in number, because the different vendors use different number system, but equal in color. Then Adobe would have removed another argument for not using ACR/LR.

> If I have 3 D300 and set all cameras to WB "Cloudy" in camera. Will LR/ACR give different WB values for each cameras when I import pictures from them?
No, or if it does, then that happens based on some mysterious circumstances.
I loaded six images by six different D300, shot with four different ISOs, under different illuminations. "Cloudy" means always (6500,+10).
> The Cloudy setting you get now is of no use
Are you talking of a scenery shot with "Cloudy" in camera and processed by ACR "As shot", or shot with whatever setting in camera and processed by ACR as "Cloudy"?
I suggest you to do following test:
1. shoot a grey card, sufficient large for WB template,
2. use that shot as WB template,
3. shoot the same card again.
Now compare the temperatures shown by CNX and by ACR. I guess they will not be the same; however, when processed in ACR "As shot", is the grey grey? If you pick WB on that spot, are the temperature and tint far from the "As shot" value? That is namely the only important issue, not the absolute numbers.
> and give a strong pink cast
IMO those settings are for JPEG shooters. Depending on the setting, shoot a white/grey patch for picking WB on (for sampling the reflected light), or use a "white disk" for sampling the light source.
Moreover, the fact, that clouds are over your head does not mean, that the actual illumination is "cloudy". Reflections from the surroundings change the illumination. I just tested this on images shot in the mountains with much green. It was truly "cloudy", but the setting "cloudy" resulted yellowish/reddish white objects and yellow greenery.

Can I load a specific camera/lens profile into LR and if so how?

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I'm trying to figure out the Camera Calibration tab in Adobe Camera Raw 5.3. It seems that every picture I open selects a different Camera Profile in the drop down menu. How do I know which one is appropriate for my camera (Nikon D40X)? Or, do you just select whichever one looks the best to you on the drop down menu for that picture? Or, does it matter that much at all since they never had this tab in there before?

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Just downloaded the update for Lightroom 2.3 and am viewing a camera raw image (CRW file) shot on a Canon Powershot S50. According to what I've been able to ferret out on the Camera Raw / DNG pages, when I have that image selected and look at the Camera Calibration Settings profile options I should be see the original ACR 2.2 and 2.4 profiles plus 2 new profiles, an Adobe Standard profile plus one that mimics the manufacturer's own converter profile that starts with the word "Camera..." and goes on to mention the manufacturer and specific camera. I see only three - ACR 2.2, ACR 2.4, and Adobe Standard. The 4th one the Adobe Labs DNG materials seem to say I should be seeing is missing. Have I misread the documentation or is something wrong with the install? (I have not yet upgraded from Photoshop CS3 to CS4 so the Camera Raw converter over in Photoshop is still version 4.6 if that's relevant.)

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to lightroom3, I shoot in raw on a 5dii, never connected the camera directly to the PC, load images via a card reader, lens correction profiles are there. But only 6 profiles for camera calibration are there. None specific to the camera. All the images are CR2 files. I am following Scott kelby's book. Am I doing something wrong. Help please.

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Lightroom 4.3 doesn't show my Camera Calibration Profile.

I have Lightroom 4.3 and a Canon 6D. I cannot get Lightroom to display my Camera Calibration Profile when I am developing a raw file.
I have dug through the MAC Library and Application Support folder and found CameraRaw. That folder contains my listed cameras. But when I am in Lightroom, I do not see that profile in the Camera Calibration section.
Is there a way to force Lightroom to display my camera profile? Lightroom 2 used to display it.

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Thats just the way they are named. You will not see profiles that are specific to other cameras.

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Yes this will seem a very thick question ....
I've downloaded and installed Camera Profiles Beta 2 ....
In the drop down list for LR and ACR should there be specific mention of 5DII ?
or is
Camera Faithful etc as good as it gets....
I just want to know I'm using the downloaded ones
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Simon

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Camera Matching Profiles for the Olympus E-3

Lightroom provides 24 camera matching profiles for Canon, 21 for Nikon, 3 for Pentax and a single one for Leica but not one for any fourthirds camera. Olympus in particular is conspicuous by its abcence. Might I encourage Adobe to give this serious consideration. I believe in principle Lightroom to be a superior product to that offered by Olympus but until Adobe shows a willingness to support Olympus many dedicated Olympus users, and dedicated we are, will opt for alternative products. To dispel and doubts about the level of interest and dedication in fourthirds, you have only to look at the activity on the fourthirds forum http://forum.fourthirdsphoto.com/ .
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Way to view camera-specific metadata

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Curt and Jim,
Thanks for your responses.
I do get all the "standard" fields like exposure settings and focal length. And I know how to set the preferences to display or not display any of the standard fields
b that Adobe knows about.
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