Can (2)1st & (2) 2nd gen shuffles be on same computer and same itunes

I currently have 2 1st gen shuffles - other kids wanted ipods so i got them the 2nd gen shuffles. My concern is will the software for the 2nds' be compatable with the 1sts'. If not will it be possible to have two different versions of itunes installed on the same computer. I don't want to give up the 1st gen. One's mine and I gotta have my music!!!! I tried looking up the answer everywhere on Apples wonderful support site. No help, so I am asking you fine people out there who have purchased Apples products and then been left to wonder in the dark.
dell pc Windows XP

The current version of iTunes supports all currently available iPods; if you want to transfer different music to each iPod, see this article for information.
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Hi Everyone..
Im trying to help a friend out, I suspect his 2nd gen shuffle is hosed, but thought I'd confirm with others.
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In mucking around with it for some time, I finally installed a fresh copy of Itunes over the existing one and when it restarted I was told the shuffle was in Recovery mode.. so I reset it from within itunes. Upon restarting, itunes again doesnt see it. I then downloaded the reset utility and tried that, again, doesnt see it.
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Is the shuffle toast?
thanks,
cakes..

Not looking good if you ask me especially since the problem was persistent across two different PCs and the reset utility did not help.
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I haven't personally used it, but it's widely recommended so I suspect it's pretty good software. If your restore is failing it may be the only way to access your data again. And if the backup is failing because it is corrupt, even this may not work.
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Itunes will not update/sync ipod shuffle (1st or 2nd gen).

Hello -- I've seen a few postings with similar issues, but no answers that work yet, so I'm hoping someone may be able to help.
Recently, I can not get itunes to sync or update either my 1st or 2nd gen shuffle. itunes sees it and diagnostics says everything is fine (although the diag program takes 5-7 mins to run). Non-shuffle ipods work fine on the same USB port. Also, the shuffles work fine on other computers.
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None of the suggested fixes in the knowledge base article you referenced resolved this issue for me. Further, I cannot use the iPod Reset Utility to restore the iPod as it is not 64-bit OS compatible.
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After the recent iTunes update to 10.6.3 I have experienced problems syncing my 2nd generation iPod Shuffle. I get an error message indicating a problem syncing, try again later or restore. I have restarted the computer, restored the software in the iPod Shuffle, and even downloaded iTunes. Multiple times.
Any advice on solving this problem now, or must I wait till the next version of iTunes and hope it fixes this problem?

My 2nd gen shuffle still works fine with the lastest iTunes and latest Mac OS X. Did you only update iTunes when this problem started, or was it both iTunes and Mac OS X?
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Another test, to help narrow down possible causes, is to create a new user account, in System Preferences Users & Groups pane. Log out (don't use Fast User Switching) and log in to the new user account. Try using iTunes with the shuffle there, to see if it works better. If that helps, the cause is something in your current user account. If the problem is the same, the problem is something that affects the overall system or hardware.
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The Sad face icon is usually a very good indication of a hardware malfunction or failure usually with the iPod's Hard Drive, which would also explain the loud clicking noise you are hearing.
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Guys,
my incredibly stable quad g5 has gone "nuts" since I've had my 2nd gen shuffle. It hangs, won't mount external USB drives if the 2nd gen shuffle is docked during startup, lots of other really weird things.
The shuffle was delivered to my work, so the shuttle was 1st connected to a Windows box, but just to charge it fully.
when the shuffle is connected to the quad, it only actually shows in iTunes about 25% of the time... whether or not it shows up in iTunes, I can see an "iPod" on the USB bus. I've got lots of USB 2.0 powered ports... changing ports doesn't make a difference at all.
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ah... well, I've already restored one of the times that it was connected to a proper 2.0 powered USB port.
the first time, it wouldn't come back from the reflashed state, ie it didn't reconnect to iTunes...
I disconnected, it had no songs on it, but it seemed to work... after a number of attempts to dock, it finally did, and I pumped a bunch of song over to it and it worked...
I then retried that sequence and the update worked fine.
it's still a strange beast. for example... although no disk access is allowed, it still mounts a shuffle icon onto the desktop, just no folders are visible... strange...
I've chosen to downsample to 128kbit AAC, and I'm not having iTunes autofill the shuffle. I unselected the downsample option and clicked apply. one would think that the data on the shuffle would stay as is. Nope, it wiped the shuffle and tried to put the songs that were there back on the shuffle at the original bitrates, which of course don't fit. Reselect the downsample option, click apply, and it repeats the wipe of the shuffle, and is now (again) downsampling and sending to the shuffle. Since it's on the keyboard USB port right now, this is taking quite a while.
I'll def try on other machines, and indeed without the USB drives mounted, ah, sorry, can't really do that on the quad... the iTunes library is on one of the external USB drives...
anyway, I get what you want me to try... it might be tomorrow before I can repeat the sequence enough times to say something conclusive. This has been going on for a few days already... I've restarted the quad more times since Thursday than I have in the last year!
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1238
that is only for the 1st and 2nd gen shuffle. It does something like a Restore in iTunes, but works at a "lower" level in cases when a Restore in iTunes does not work (or cannot be used). For it to work, the shuffle does need to be seen by the system, and it sounds like yours meets that requirement.
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I think it was just that itunes was running- but can't disable that. I ended up just taking about 30 mins to delete each song individually from the shuffle. Hopfully it will work for the kiddo we are giving it too. Thanks for your suggestion!

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Not looking good if you ask me especially since the problem was persistent across two different PCs and the reset utility did not help.
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