Can 945P Platinum control on-board sysfan, nbfan and pwrfan fan speed?

I bought a couple of 8" case fans. These fans comes with a connector (with 3 wires) which i connect to the motherboard fan connectos (pwrfan, sysfan, nbfan). Using "SpeedFan" software, i can see the RPM of these fans and even my CPU fan. But it seems that i can only control the speed of the CPU fan, but not the other fans. I reduce the fans speed to "0" on SpeedFan but the RPM does not seems to be affected.
Can the RPMS of the fans be adjusted fron SpeedFan? ???

I too am having problems with Speedfan. My PL945 Neo5-F reports, in speedfan, the existence of 4 fans.
Looking in the manual to identify what's what, it states that it supports 3 fans - CPU, Sysfan2 and pwrfan2 - what happened to sysfan1 and pwrfan1?
Anyway, I managed to work out that although speedfan reports 4 fans, it seems only able to control cpufan1 (fan1) and sysfan2 (fan 2). Neither fans 3 and 4 map to pwrfan2 (what is being reported).
If anyone has cracked this nut, please let me know.
I suspect it is something to do with the address the other fans report to - but I don't know how to find and fix it.
Core Center simply crashes and won't let me do anything. In fact, I can't get the front end to even appear now, no matter how many times I uninstall and install it.
I'm running Vista HP with 2 gb and a core 2 duo 6550. Graphics is a Saphire Radeon 3600).

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Hi Lomedil
What you have is a general control problem. This statement:
"The fans speed should be faster, the longer the temperature stays above 25 degrees, until it drops down to 25 degrees. "
Is an indication that you at least need a PI-controller, or you could use a PID-controller. The I in PID stands for integral and that means that the longer you have the same value different from your reference the larger the control signal will be and thereby the faster the fan will spin.
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http://zone.ni.com/devzone/cda/tut/p/id/6440
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hi...
my english is lack so i'll make it slow
i just bought the msi 945p platinum with intel dual 805d.
unfortunally, i cant o/c the system ..
the bios got no update on msi website so i see it is the latest bios .
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i am kind of newbie in the terms of o/c .
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Quote from: emankov on 27-May-06, 01:52:50
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